Ethno Weapons World Map

Edster · 16th June 2012, 06:02 PM

Ibrahiim and Dave,

Thanks for your enthusiastic support of the idea. However, I'm a little disappointed that it didn't get more early traction. I'm sure there other visual/spacial thinkers out there. Never mind. Not to worry. We can just get out our atlas, colored pencils and note cards, and begin to create data in a manual format. Once we get a substantial collection we can enter the data into an electronic format.

The more I think of it there should be two layers. One for "in current use"(mainly in the fringes of post-colonial states) and indeed a much larger one that includes "historical use" of items that are largely cultural relics that are of central interest to the Forum including we three.

Geopolitical theory and the Westphalian notion that all areas of the globe should be within the boundaries and subject to the sovereignty of a nation state can help show us where ethnographic weapons are still in use. World maps and national boundaries were drawn on this basis largely during the 18th/19th centuries mostly by Europeans. Fringe areas (and their ethnic groups) of many nations have not always / never been really under the control of the associated central government. Northern Mali, much of central Africa, parts of the Philipines, Afghanistan, the Afar region of Eritrea / Ethiopia, just to name a few, cling to traditional values and weapons and have managed to stay out of the "mainstream". Issues were / are addressed inter-ethnically without the intervention of a national army.

Anyway, lets get started, work at a pace that suits us and check back from time to time via the forum or PM.

Best regards,
Ed

ariel · 16th June 2012, 06:35 PM

All Third World countries are quite uniform in their choice of ethnic weapon: AK-47
Kinda simplifies your mapping task, doesn't it? :-)

Edster · 16th June 2012, 11:31 PM

Astute if somewhat post-modern observation. Well played. :-)

VANDOO · 17th June 2012, 12:49 AM

THERE ARE VERY FEW PLACES IN OUR WORLD TODAY WHERE THE OLD FORMS OF ETHINOGRAPHIC WEAPONS ARE STILL USED AS ORIGINALLY INTENDED. IN TODAYS WORLD WHERE THEY ARE USED IS FOR CEREMONIES, SPECIAL FESTIVALS, PARADES, REINACTMENTS AND AT TIMONIUM.

JUST KIDDING ABOUT TIMONIUM.

AN INDEX OF MAPS OF THE OLD DAYS AND OF THE TRIBAL TERRITORIES AND THE OLD FORMS OF WEAPONS WOULD INDEED BE A VALUABLE REFRENCE. I REMEMBER SEEING SEVERAL MAPS OF BORNEO AND THE PHILIPPINES WITH SUCH INFORMATION IN SOME OLD POSTS SO THERE IS A STARTING POINT ALREADY PRESENT IN THE FORUM. GATHERING IT TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE WOULD MAKE IT MUCH EASIER TO ACCESS FOR A REFRENCE. GOOD IDEA GO FOR IT!

Lee · 17th June 2012, 06:37 PM

Well, there has always been an intention to build such maps for the static site and I would welcome the help if people want to do the research to achieve this.

spiral · 17th June 2012, 11:43 PM

O well maps to large for the forum software... Ill do it another day or another way....

spiral

Rick · 18th June 2012, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiral

O well maps to large for the forum software... Ill do it another day or another way....

spiral

Suggest you contact Lee .

16th June 2012, 06:02 PM	#1
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 440	Ibrahiim and Dave, Thanks for your enthusiastic support of the idea. However, I'm a little disappointed that it didn't get more early traction. I'm sure there other visual/spacial thinkers out there. Never mind. Not to worry. We can just get out our atlas, colored pencils and note cards, and begin to create data in a manual format. Once we get a substantial collection we can enter the data into an electronic format. The more I think of it there should be two layers. One for "in current use"(mainly in the fringes of post-colonial states) and indeed a much larger one that includes "historical use" of items that are largely cultural relics that are of central interest to the Forum including we three. Geopolitical theory and the Westphalian notion that all areas of the globe should be within the boundaries and subject to the sovereignty of a nation state can help show us where ethnographic weapons are still in use. World maps and national boundaries were drawn on this basis largely during the 18th/19th centuries mostly by Europeans. Fringe areas (and their ethnic groups) of many nations have not always / never been really under the control of the associated central government. Northern Mali, much of central Africa, parts of the Philipines, Afghanistan, the Afar region of Eritrea / Ethiopia, just to name a few, cling to traditional values and weapons and have managed to stay out of the "mainstream". Issues were / are addressed inter-ethnically without the intervention of a national army. Anyway, lets get started, work at a pace that suits us and check back from time to time via the forum or PM. Best regards, Ed

16th June 2012, 06:35 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	All Third World countries are quite uniform in their choice of ethnic weapon: AK-47 Kinda simplifies your mapping task, doesn't it? :-)

16th June 2012, 11:31 PM	#3
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 440	Astute if somewhat post-modern observation. Well played. :-)

17th June 2012, 12:49 AM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THERE ARE VERY FEW PLACES IN OUR WORLD TODAY WHERE THE OLD FORMS OF ETHINOGRAPHIC WEAPONS ARE STILL USED AS ORIGINALLY INTENDED. IN TODAYS WORLD WHERE THEY ARE USED IS FOR CEREMONIES, SPECIAL FESTIVALS, PARADES, REINACTMENTS AND AT TIMONIUM. JUST KIDDING ABOUT TIMONIUM. AN INDEX OF MAPS OF THE OLD DAYS AND OF THE TRIBAL TERRITORIES AND THE OLD FORMS OF WEAPONS WOULD INDEED BE A VALUABLE REFRENCE. I REMEMBER SEEING SEVERAL MAPS OF BORNEO AND THE PHILIPPINES WITH SUCH INFORMATION IN SOME OLD POSTS SO THERE IS A STARTING POINT ALREADY PRESENT IN THE FORUM. GATHERING IT TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE WOULD MAKE IT MUCH EASIER TO ACCESS FOR A REFRENCE. GOOD IDEA GO FOR IT!

17th June 2012, 06:37 PM	#5
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 949	Well, there has always been an intention to build such maps for the static site and I would welcome the help if people want to do the research to achieve this.

17th June 2012, 11:43 PM	#6
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	O well maps to large for the forum software... Ill do it another day or another way.... spiral