Mughal sword handle. Am I dreaming?

ariel · 5th June 2012, 07:40 PM

Yours has a much better preserved gold decorations. If Indian economy gets any better, you will become a VERY, VERY rich man!
:-)

Battara · 5th June 2012, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Yours has a much better preserved gold decorations. If Indian economy gets any better, you will become a VERY, VERY rich man!
:-)

Which would mean Indian pieces would be out of the price range for a number of us......

Emanuel · 6th June 2012, 05:37 AM

Indian economy is slowing down actually.

Still, I am finding that a lot of the wealthy Indians here are indeed snapping up antiques, arms and armour included.

ALEX · 6th June 2012, 11:27 AM

Nothing wrong with the price, especially considering the global market. It is a nice and authentic antique item. I agree with Rick, it is at least 18th century or a bit earlier hilt of good quality. Good for both the buyer and seller:-)
when one thinks: "would be nice to buy it for $100", then it looks really expensive when it goes above $1000:-)

Atlantia · 6th June 2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

when one thinks: "would be nice to buy it for $100", then it looks really expensive when it goes above $1000:-)

LOL, How very true! It's our old enemy: Wishful thinking!

How many times has that stopped me buying something I should have?

-They can't all be 'flea market' bargains sadly

Tim Simmons · 6th June 2012, 02:46 PM

I have to agree with "ariel" quite attractive, common without a blade, £841 far too much! Think what else you could get for that money with shiny bits and a scabbard? Gold leaf blindness?

ariel · 7th June 2012, 11:57 AM

Something is happening to the Indian weapons: about 2-3 years ago there started to appear obviously new ( and even advertised as such!) Indian swords and daggers of rather decent workmanship. Now, the market is awash in newly-made or renovated ( old blade + new handle)and artficially-aged tulwars, khandas, khanjars etc, with asking prices starting at $1,000.One can still see the incongruities, but the sellers do not seem to care. Many just dropped the designations "old" or "replica" altogether and sell them as is: caveat emptor!
It became a real industry there. From the collectors' point of view, this is much worse than the "chinese invasion" of illiterate, pure fantasy, pseudo-russian, pseudo-french, pseudo-chinese etc junk. The indian stuff is much closer to genuine objects, and the artistic/historical/technical level is several orders of magnitude higher. If they get any better ( and they will, I am afraid!), we will have a real problem, akin to a meteoric transition of caucasian weapons from genuine samples to sophisticated and highly professional forgery.
Are they sold in India, and are they commanding high prices? Emanuel, you are close to the ground; what is your feel?

5th June 2012, 07:40 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Yours has a much better preserved gold decorations. If Indian economy gets any better, you will become a VERY, VERY rich man! :-)

6th June 2012, 05:37 AM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Indian economy is slowing down actually. Still, I am finding that a lot of the wealthy Indians here are indeed snapping up antiques, arms and armour included.

6th June 2012, 11:27 AM	#4
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Nothing wrong with the price, especially considering the global market. It is a nice and authentic antique item. I agree with Rick, it is at least 18th century or a bit earlier hilt of good quality. Good for both the buyer and seller:-) when one thinks: "would be nice to buy it for $100", then it looks really expensive when it goes above $1000:-)

6th June 2012, 02:46 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	I have to agree with "ariel" quite attractive, common without a blade, £841 far too much! Think what else you could get for that money with shiny bits and a scabbard? Gold leaf blindness?

7th June 2012, 11:57 AM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Something is happening to the Indian weapons: about 2-3 years ago there started to appear obviously new ( and even advertised as such!) Indian swords and daggers of rather decent workmanship. Now, the market is awash in newly-made or renovated ( old blade + new handle)and artficially-aged tulwars, khandas, khanjars etc, with asking prices starting at $1,000.One can still see the incongruities, but the sellers do not seem to care. Many just dropped the designations "old" or "replica" altogether and sell them as is: caveat emptor! It became a real industry there. From the collectors' point of view, this is much worse than the "chinese invasion" of illiterate, pure fantasy, pseudo-russian, pseudo-french, pseudo-chinese etc junk. The indian stuff is much closer to genuine objects, and the artistic/historical/technical level is several orders of magnitude higher. If they get any better ( and they will, I am afraid!), we will have a real problem, akin to a meteoric transition of caucasian weapons from genuine samples to sophisticated and highly professional forgery. Are they sold in India, and are they commanding high prices? Emanuel, you are close to the ground; what is your feel?