Sudanese spear scepter

Tim Simmons · 30th May 2012, 08:32 AM

Quote {power house of cookware 1893-1920} Just a quick look.

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/wmh/...rticleID=26240

Mess tin dated. These were in use well before WW1

http://www.1420h.org.uk/archives/messtin/messtin.html

pre 1914 Russian Aluminiun bottles

http://www.collect-militaria.com/ind...571&page=1&c=5

Timo Nieminen · 30th May 2012, 09:52 AM

De-preciousization was about 1890. Before that, fit for VIPs, capping prestige momuments, etc. After that, rapidly cheaper. Some history at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium#History.

I thought this sceptre/spear/thing was cute, but not really my thing. Also, Quarantine here doesn't like the import of animal products like this. At best, they tend to charge for gamma-irradiation of it before you can get it. But that's my problems with it, not yours, so congrats on a cute sceptre/spear/thing!

Here is my favourite Sudanese thing. It's modern (1970s or 1980s iirc), but supposedly made in the traditional style.

spiral · 30th May 2012, 09:55 AM

Nice piece Lew, Steel I see.

Hi Tim, Yes I see the International Aluminium institute says world production was up to 8000 tonnes by 1900. My error, it was a precious metal untill around 1889

The American firm you linked to started producing cookware in 1914, they original imported ally for novelties from Germany. {The Austrians & Swiss bieng the main producers apparently.}

Spiral

30th May 2012, 08:32 AM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,935	Quote {power house of cookware 1893-1920} Just a quick look. http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/wmh/...rticleID=26240 Mess tin dated. These were in use well before WW1 http://www.1420h.org.uk/archives/messtin/messtin.html pre 1914 Russian Aluminiun bottles http://www.collect-militaria.com/ind...571&page=1&c=5 Last edited by Tim Simmons; 30th May 2012 at 09:03 AM.

30th May 2012, 09:52 AM	#2
Timo Nieminen Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 422	De-preciousization was about 1890. Before that, fit for VIPs, capping prestige momuments, etc. After that, rapidly cheaper. Some history at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium#History. I thought this sceptre/spear/thing was cute, but not really my thing. Also, Quarantine here doesn't like the import of animal products like this. At best, they tend to charge for gamma-irradiation of it before you can get it. But that's my problems with it, not yours, so congrats on a cute sceptre/spear/thing! Here is my favourite Sudanese thing. It's modern (1970s or 1980s iirc), but supposedly made in the traditional style. Attached Images

30th May 2012, 09:55 AM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Nice piece Lew, Steel I see. Hi Tim, Yes I see the International Aluminium institute says world production was up to 8000 tonnes by 1900. My error, it was a precious metal untill around 1889 The American firm you linked to started producing cookware in 1914, they original imported ally for novelties from Germany. {The Austrians & Swiss bieng the main producers apparently.} Spiral