A unique bronze barrel wall gun (doppelter Doppelhaken), Nuremberg, ca. 1515-20

Matchlock · 24th May 2012, 11:03 PM

For early-16th c. Nuremberg barrels of arquebuses (small 'long' guns), please see

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15381

Matchlock · 26th May 2012, 05:43 PM

Another, similiar early-16th c. Nuremberg wallgun bronze/brass barrel is preserved in the George F. Harding collection, in The Art Institute of Chicago.

It seems from the photo that the pan has been removed from the right-hand side of the breech.

m

Marcus den toom · 11th December 2013, 08:47 PM

Incredible Michael, just came across this thread.
Any new information on these wall guns?

I found a very interesting website on hand cannons.
http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Black...Matchlocks.htm

Matchlock · 12th December 2013, 11:46 AM

Hi Marcus,

And thanks for re-enlivening that old thread of mine. Yes, that's a highly important historic piece in virtually 'untouched' condition for 500 years! Imagine!

Apart from the Germanisches Nationalmuseum Nürnberg and the privately owned Schloss Hohenlohe-Langenburg, where I took some of the images posted in this thread, they do not exist in any German, Austrian or Swiss museum or any private collection (except mine)!

Had I new information on such items I would post it right away.

The old site on early hand cannon has one big flaw: the tiny photos that cannot be enlarged!

How can anybody possibly design a site like that??!!! Grrrrrrr ....

Best,
m

Marcus den toom · 18th December 2013, 08:07 PM

I found a other bronze hackbut like yours. Sold trough Sotheby's but i can't find it anywhere.

Matchlock · 18th December 2013, 08:21 PM

I recall this one; it was mounted on the present 'carriage' in the 19th c., the Nuremberg barrel ca. 1515-20 but heavily overcleaned.

It cannot match my unique piece in any way.

m

Marcus den toom · 19th December 2013, 08:14 PM

Quit right Michael, but still you have to admit that the basic form is the same

Sadly, most museums care more about making there presentations as shiny as can be, instead of teaching the folks the facts. A simple photoshop artist could have made the same shiny barrel on paper

I found another haquebut (?) matchlock gun on the web, no other pictures though.

edit: wait a second, this is yours Michael?

26th May 2012, 05:43 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Another, similiar early-16th c. Nuremberg wallgun bronze/brass barrel is preserved in the George F. Harding collection, in The Art Institute of Chicago. It seems from the photo that the pan has been removed from the right-hand side of the breech. m Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 26th May 2012 at 10:16 PM.

24th May 2012, 11:03 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	For early-16th c. Nuremberg barrels of arquebuses (small 'long' guns), please see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15381

11th December 2013, 08:47 PM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Incredible Michael, just came across this thread. Any new information on these wall guns? I found a very interesting website on hand cannons. http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Black...Matchlocks.htm

12th December 2013, 11:46 AM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Marcus, And thanks for re-enlivening that old thread of mine. Yes, that's a highly important historic piece in virtually 'untouched' condition for 500 years! Imagine! Apart from the Germanisches Nationalmuseum Nürnberg and the privately owned Schloss Hohenlohe-Langenburg, where I took some of the images posted in this thread, they do not exist in any German, Austrian or Swiss museum or any private collection (except mine)! Had I new information on such items I would post it right away. The old site on early hand cannon has one big flaw: the tiny photos that cannot be enlarged! How can anybody possibly design a site like that??!!! Grrrrrrr .... Best, m

18th December 2013, 08:07 PM	#5
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	I found a other bronze hackbut like yours. Sold trough Sotheby's but i can't find it anywhere.

18th December 2013, 08:21 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	I recall this one; it was mounted on the present 'carriage' in the 19th c., the Nuremberg barrel ca. 1515-20 but heavily overcleaned. It cannot match my unique piece in any way. m

19th December 2013, 08:14 PM	#7
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Quit right Michael, but still you have to admit that the basic form is the same Sadly, most museums care more about making there presentations as shiny as can be, instead of teaching the folks the facts. A simple photoshop artist could have made the same shiny barrel on paper I found another haquebut (?) matchlock gun on the web, no other pictures though. edit: wait a second, this is yours Michael?