Two kris

Battara · 17th May 2012, 03:25 AM

Here comes the tedious part - the winding of the string and then painting the section with black lacquer, all after I made the silver band for this kris.

Sajen · 17th May 2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Here comes the tedious part - the winding of the string and then painting the section with black lacquer, all after I made the silver band for this kris.

Hello Jose,

yes, I believe that this is the most tedious part! Some questions: What you use for the string? And which sort of lacquer you use? And at last, do you think that above from the last brass band have been nothing originally?

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 18th May 2012, 12:10 AM

I use cotton string because it absorbs the lacquer better and some of the string used on old Moro pieces are cotton.

Lacquer? Well I use commercial black lacquer. It is very similar (or the same?) as that used on old Moro kris and barong.

As far as the band is concerned, I believe that it is quite possible that there was a silver band there in the middle in this case - it balances out the rest of the silver and brass.

Nirghosa · 18th May 2012, 02:50 AM

Where do you procure the silver sheet to start with?

On many trainers I have made in the past I've used black hemp cord, it comes in varying weights and sizes and is already black! very strong stuff that takes a wear.

On a recent barong I am making for a friend (I only make them primarily as gifts these days) I recenlty tried out pearled embroidery thread for the wrap. Fantastically amazing stuff, it has a wound rope like look. It's already black and comes very close to some of the wraps I've seen. I put some crazy glue into spots to help it hold up and the glue seeped right in and looked just like some old pieces that were laquered up!

The silver work is one of the last aspects I have yet to delve into so I'm very appreciative of what you've posted here.

Battara · 18th May 2012, 03:09 AM

There are several sources for silver sheet. Fire Mountain Jewelry, Rio Grande, Hoover and Strong, to name a few.

Nirghosa · 18th May 2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

There are several sources for silver sheet. Fire Mountain Jewelry, Rio Grande, Hoover and Strong, to name a few.

excellent! Thanks!

Battara · 26th May 2012, 08:19 PM

Here is the final set of pictures for one kris:

17th May 2012, 03:25 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Here comes the tedious part - the winding of the string and then painting the section with black lacquer, all after I made the silver band for this kris. Attached Images

26th May 2012, 08:19 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Here is the final set of pictures for one kris: Attached Images

18th May 2012, 12:10 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I use cotton string because it absorbs the lacquer better and some of the string used on old Moro pieces are cotton. Lacquer? Well I use commercial black lacquer. It is very similar (or the same?) as that used on old Moro kris and barong. As far as the band is concerned, I believe that it is quite possible that there was a silver band there in the middle in this case - it balances out the rest of the silver and brass.

18th May 2012, 02:50 AM	#4
Nirghosa Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 119	Where do you procure the silver sheet to start with? On many trainers I have made in the past I've used black hemp cord, it comes in varying weights and sizes and is already black! very strong stuff that takes a wear. On a recent barong I am making for a friend (I only make them primarily as gifts these days) I recenlty tried out pearled embroidery thread for the wrap. Fantastically amazing stuff, it has a wound rope like look. It's already black and comes very close to some of the wraps I've seen. I put some crazy glue into spots to help it hold up and the glue seeped right in and looked just like some old pieces that were laquered up! The silver work is one of the last aspects I have yet to delve into so I'm very appreciative of what you've posted here.

18th May 2012, 03:09 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	There are several sources for silver sheet. Fire Mountain Jewelry, Rio Grande, Hoover and Strong, to name a few.