Anyone here win this one[Talibong/Garab]?

VANDOO · 15th May 2012, 04:50 AM

JUDGING FROM THE SHAPE OF THE HANDLES AND ESPECIALLY THE SCABBARD TIP THESE MUST COME FROM THE SAME REGION OR TRIBE. WHICH ISLAND DO YOU GUYS THINK THEY COME FROM? I WILL MAKE A WILD GUESS SAMAR OR POSSIBLY CEBU AREA.

migueldiaz · 15th May 2012, 05:39 AM

in the 'hidden cities' series in history channel asia, the host [anthony morse] explains why the right-handed iban headhunter has to be equipped with a right-side beveled chisel-ground sword -- in this first screen capture, morse was saying:

"… [the Iban's (Borneo) sword] is designed to separate, or cut off the head. Now you can't really see it on the camera, but this particular blade, there is a slight curvature on the top or outer part. And on the back side, it's complete flat. This sword was designed specifically for a warrior who is right-handed …"

migueldiaz · 15th May 2012, 05:40 AM

"… Now let's say I was a right-handed warrior, if I were coming to cut off his head, as I approach the neck, because of the curve in the outer side of the blade, as soon as I make contact, it would kind of swipe across, and then go upwards, ensuring a very clean cut."

migueldiaz · 15th May 2012, 05:41 AM

"Now if I were to use the same blade as a left-hander, what would happen is I would cut. And instead of going upward, the blade would actually go downwards. And then that would just not be good. Because then you would have a head that's still semi-attached to the body. And that would just not cut it, for building your reputation as a fierce headhunter."

migueldiaz · 15th May 2012, 05:44 AM

Click here to watch that short video.

So what do you guys think? Does Morse make sense, and was there something written or reported before, about the logic being explained by Morse? Thanks.

migueldiaz · 15th May 2012, 06:21 AM

on a less macabre note, this website explains why in certain situations, a chisel-ground blade makes more sense ...

kronckew · 15th May 2012, 07:19 AM

i did mean to hilite in my earlier post that sajen's original posted photo was likely 'flipped' digitally somewhere in either epray or elsewhen. my post above was the original poster's photo re-flipped to turn it back into a right-hander, which i assumed it really is.

i'm glad the topic of left/right handers was thus discussed as it is important in these eastern weapons (and sushi knives - i do in fact own a nice laminated japanese sushi knife, right handed of course.

).

i like miguel's posting just above, especially the very last sentence in the attachment starting 'finally'. after all, these were initially farm tools & only incidentally later weapons. a clean cut on a bush precedes but does negate a clean cut on a neck.

15th May 2012, 05:39 AM	#2
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	in the 'hidden cities' series in history channel asia, the host [anthony morse] explains why the right-handed iban headhunter has to be equipped with a right-side beveled chisel-ground sword -- in this first screen capture, morse was saying: "… [the Iban's (Borneo) sword] is designed to separate, or cut off the head. Now you can't really see it on the camera, but this particular blade, there is a slight curvature on the top or outer part. And on the back side, it's complete flat. This sword was designed specifically for a warrior who is right-handed …" Attached Images

15th May 2012, 05:40 AM	#3
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	"… Now let's say I was a right-handed warrior, if I were coming to cut off his head, as I approach the neck, because of the curve in the outer side of the blade, as soon as I make contact, it would kind of swipe across, and then go upwards, ensuring a very clean cut." Attached Images

15th May 2012, 05:41 AM	#4
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	"Now if I were to use the same blade as a left-hander, what would happen is I would cut. And instead of going upward, the blade would actually go downwards. And then that would just not be good. Because then you would have a head that's still semi-attached to the body. And that would just not cut it, for building your reputation as a fierce headhunter." Attached Images

15th May 2012, 05:44 AM	#5
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Click here to watch that short video. So what do you guys think? Does Morse make sense, and was there something written or reported before, about the logic being explained by Morse? Thanks. Attached Images

15th May 2012, 06:21 AM	#6
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	on a less macabre note, this website explains why in certain situations, a chisel-ground blade makes more sense ... Attached Images

15th May 2012, 04:50 AM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	JUDGING FROM THE SHAPE OF THE HANDLES AND ESPECIALLY THE SCABBARD TIP THESE MUST COME FROM THE SAME REGION OR TRIBE. WHICH ISLAND DO YOU GUYS THINK THEY COME FROM? I WILL MAKE A WILD GUESS SAMAR OR POSSIBLY CEBU AREA.

15th May 2012, 07:19 AM	#7
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,257	i did mean to hilite in my earlier post that sajen's original posted photo was likely 'flipped' digitally somewhere in either epray or elsewhen. my post above was the original poster's photo re-flipped to turn it back into a right-hander, which i assumed it really is. i'm glad the topic of left/right handers was thus discussed as it is important in these eastern weapons (and sushi knives - i do in fact own a nice laminated japanese sushi knife, right handed of course. ). i like miguel's posting just above, especially the very last sentence in the attachment starting 'finally'. after all, these were initially farm tools & only incidentally later weapons. a clean cut on a bush precedes but does negate a clean cut on a neck.