Horn kris hilts

kai · 11th May 2012, 07:27 AM

Gio, we need a close-up of a part where the grain has been cut (preferably close to a right angle) - a top view of the curved part should do.

At the moment, I'd guess it's kerbau or some other "real" horn.

Detlef, the pics are not sharp enough, I'm afraid. If you examine your hilt under magnification, it should be able to verify the material.

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 11th May 2012, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Detlef, the pics are not sharp enough, I'm afraid. If you examine your hilt under magnification, it should be able to verify the material.

Regards,
Kai

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kai · 11th May 2012, 07:57 AM

Hello Detlef,

Sorry, I meant Jean and the hilt he posted above!

We need to see the endgrain: i. e. the top of the head of Jean's hilt (or the chin area or even the base of the hilt if clean/polished enough).

Easier to examine/see when actually handling a piece. A 10x magnifying glass (jeweller's loupe) does help a lot.

Regards,
Kai

kai · 11th May 2012, 08:01 AM

BTW, Gio, looks like a nicely carved hilt! Could you post more pics of this hilt (and preferably the whole keris) in a seperate thread, please? Thanks!

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 11th May 2012, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Detlef,

Sorry, I meant Jean and the hilt he posted above!

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,

have thought like this but was unsure!

Regards,

Detlef

asomotif · 11th May 2012, 08:02 AM

As Kai already explained, identifying rhino is not that simple from pictures.
If I look at Jean's pictures I would guess that it is old worn antler.

Sharper pictures of all angles are helpfull.

Translucity of rhino is also an important aspect.

Best regards,
Willem

Jean · 11th May 2012, 09:08 AM

Sharper pictures won't be very helpful but I agree that my hilt could be made from old antler or whale bone from the "dots", see the left side which has a more whitish colour on the surface. The translucence is indeed a specific feature of rhino horn but it is not always visible.
Regards

11th May 2012, 09:08 AM	#7
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Sharper pictures won't be very helpful but I agree that my hilt could be made from old antler or whale bone from the "dots", see the left side which has a more whitish colour on the surface. The translucence is indeed a specific feature of rhino horn but it is not always visible. Regards Attached Images Last edited by Jean; 11th May 2012 at 11:33 AM.

11th May 2012, 07:27 AM	#1
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Gio, we need a close-up of a part where the grain has been cut (preferably close to a right angle) - a top view of the curved part should do. At the moment, I'd guess it's kerbau or some other "real" horn. Detlef, the pics are not sharp enough, I'm afraid. If you examine your hilt under magnification, it should be able to verify the material. Regards, Kai

11th May 2012, 07:57 AM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Detlef, Sorry, I meant Jean and the hilt he posted above! We need to see the endgrain: i. e. the top of the head of Jean's hilt (or the chin area or even the base of the hilt if clean/polished enough). Easier to examine/see when actually handling a piece. A 10x magnifying glass (jeweller's loupe) does help a lot. Regards, Kai

11th May 2012, 08:01 AM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	BTW, Gio, looks like a nicely carved hilt! Could you post more pics of this hilt (and preferably the whole keris) in a seperate thread, please? Thanks! Regards, Kai

11th May 2012, 08:02 AM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	As Kai already explained, identifying rhino is not that simple from pictures. If I look at Jean's pictures I would guess that it is old worn antler. Sharper pictures of all angles are helpfull. Translucity of rhino is also an important aspect. Best regards, Willem