Keris Bahari?

[ariel]

Part 2.

[Sajen]

Hello Ariel,

it is not a keris bahari but a keris panjang, both keris have the same blade profile while the keris panjang blade is longer. Some people call this keris execution keris. The keris is from Sumatra.

The blade seems to have old rust, not active so far I can see from your pictures.

The varnish seems to my eyes (dirt-) patination maybe overpainted with some sort of finish. The reason is maybe that the stem (by javanese keris called gandar) is a later addition since the original one was broken, but this is all only a guess since I never have seen such a "gandar" by a keris panjang.

When it will be my keris I would clean the blade in lemon acid or pineapple juice. The scabbard I would let in this state since I am very unsure about the stem/gandar. But the upper part normally have a very very nice wood.

Here a thread where you can see three other keris panjang: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=panjang
But with the search word "panjang" you will find more.

Regards,

Detlef

[ariel]

Thank you.
What is the numerical difference in length ( analogous to katana/wakizashi) that differentiates Panjang from Bahari? I always thought that panjang's blade is at least ~50 cm, that's why I called mine bahari.

Would you hazard a guess about the age and value ( not monetary!) of it?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by ariel

Thank you.
What is the numerical difference in length ( analogous to katana/wakizashi) that differentiates Panjang from Bahari? I always thought that panjang's blade is at least ~50 cm, that's why I called mine bahari.

Would you hazard a guess about the age and value ( not monetary!) of it?

Hello Ariel,

here a thread with some interesting informations regarding panjang/bahari: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=bahari
When you look in up of your thread, post #1, you don't have given a length from your keris and I have given my statement only from my visual impression. In the above given thread I show in post # 40 a keris with a blade length from only 36 cm which I personally still would call panjang. You will see keris in this thread which are clearly bahari keris.

Keris panjang are not so many time on the market and sought after but the keris you have bought by ebay (I have had it in my watch list) wasn't sold fast and I think that the pictures and and the strange stem or batang was the reason (at least for me). I am still think that the batang is a later addition.

But all this is my personal impression and believe and there are other much more knowledge members like BluErf or Alam Shah who will be able to tell you much more exact opinions about your keris.

Best regards,

Detlef

[ariel]

I checked the length of the blade alone: 18.5 inches or 47 cm.
Would it still qualify for K. Panjang?

[Rick]

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=bahari

Post #40
Keris on the right; I would call that a Bahari; 6 inches shorter would be in Anak-Alang territory, imo .

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Rick

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=bahari

Post #40
Keris on the right; I would call that a Bahari; 6 inches shorter would be in Anak-Alang territory, imo .

Hello Rick,

with a slim blade like this? I am very unsure!

Regards,

Detlef

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by ariel

I checked the length of the blade alone: 18.5 inches or 47 cm.
Would it still qualify for K. Panjang?

Yes, think so!

Regards,

Detlef