cultures moderation tips for keris lovers

Rick · 30th August 2005, 02:23 PM

This stuff is all too common in the world of keris dealing .
As a distinguished acquaintance once told me : buy the keris ,not the story .

nechesh · 30th August 2005, 10:30 PM

It sounds to me as if the paranormal might have been working with the dealer.

I have to wonder, if the person buying a keris cannot "feel" the energy of a certain keris for himself, if they are not sensitive to the esorteric properties, what is the purpose of asking a paranormal to tell you what you SHOULD "feel" from it. What good is the esorteric energy of a keris if the owner cannot attune himself to it? Living a spiritual and mystical life is a path, one that requires work. People like the gentleman in your story ALLOW themselves to be victimized by surrendering their own spiritual selves to paranormals, psychics and dukkuns and allowing others to dictate to them what they need to learn to sense and feel on their own. While i do believe that there are psychics and dukkuns who are both honest and sincere, there is a very long history of charlatans working this side of the street for a mighty profit.

John · 31st August 2005, 05:53 AM

One peculiar thing about people is that it's really not a keris or object they are buying or looking for but the inherent "power" of it and there are those who are quite willing to pay for them. I guess many would know what I mean. I know a certain guy who pays tens of thousands of ringgits collecting Siamese talismans from Thailand and no doubt there are ones looking for keris "powers". And arising from the "power" commercialism there's this familiar "story" phenomenon.

nechesh · 31st August 2005, 11:39 AM

Hi John. I certainly know what you mean about people who are out to buy power, but i'm afraid it's a bit like what the Beatles said about love, you really can't.

There is no easy road or shortcut to accumulating spiritual power in ones life. It must be earned. But this is probably why these fast talking keris dealers are able to continue fooling people. Our spieces has a tendency to believe what it wants to believe. But those looking to buy spiritual balance in their lives are bound to lose.

30th August 2005, 02:23 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	All Too Common This stuff is all too common in the world of keris dealing . As a distinguished acquaintance once told me : buy the keris ,not the story .

31st August 2005, 05:53 AM	#3
John Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land below the wind Posts: 135	Buying "power" One peculiar thing about people is that it's really not a keris or object they are buying or looking for but the inherent "power" of it and there are those who are quite willing to pay for them. I guess many would know what I mean. I know a certain guy who pays tens of thousands of ringgits collecting Siamese talismans from Thailand and no doubt there are ones looking for keris "powers". And arising from the "power" commercialism there's this familiar "story" phenomenon.

30th August 2005, 10:30 PM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	It sounds to me as if the paranormal might have been working with the dealer. I have to wonder, if the person buying a keris cannot "feel" the energy of a certain keris for himself, if they are not sensitive to the esorteric properties, what is the purpose of asking a paranormal to tell you what you SHOULD "feel" from it. What good is the esorteric energy of a keris if the owner cannot attune himself to it? Living a spiritual and mystical life is a path, one that requires work. People like the gentleman in your story ALLOW themselves to be victimized by surrendering their own spiritual selves to paranormals, psychics and dukkuns and allowing others to dictate to them what they need to learn to sense and feel on their own. While i do believe that there are psychics and dukkuns who are both honest and sincere, there is a very long history of charlatans working this side of the street for a mighty profit.

31st August 2005, 11:39 AM	#4
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Hi John. I certainly know what you mean about people who are out to buy power, but i'm afraid it's a bit like what the Beatles said about love, you really can't. There is no easy road or shortcut to accumulating spiritual power in ones life. It must be earned. But this is probably why these fast talking keris dealers are able to continue fooling people. Our spieces has a tendency to believe what it wants to believe. But those looking to buy spiritual balance in their lives are bound to lose.