Scissor Dagger ??

katana · 29th April 2012, 01:54 AM

Salaams Ibrahiim,
I too cannot find a definative reference to scissor daggers being a genuine weapon. I do find that references refer mainly to Ottoman or Persian examples. Both civilisations were subject to subtifugue and assasination...perhaps there are a few genuine examples used by an assassin or perhaps as personel protection

There are so called reproductions of 14th Century European scissor daggers but cannot find an original version

Kind Regards David

VANDOO · 29th April 2012, 03:49 AM

OVER THE YEARS I HAVE SEEN SISSOR DAGGERS FOR SALE BUT NEVER HAD ONE. SOME WERE SAID TO LOOK LIKE SISSORS BUT DID NOT OPEN AND WERE A DOUBBLE EDGED BLADE. THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAID TO COME FROM PERSIA OR MOGUL SOURCES.
I SUSPECT ANY THING OPENING LIKE A SISSORS AND HAVING NO EDGE TO THE OUTSIDE IS A SISSOR SOMETHING WITH A SOLID BLADE AND EDGES A TRUE DAGGER. PERHAPS SOMEONE HAS HANDLED ONE? IN DANGEROUS TIMES PERHAPS SOMETHING LIKE THIS WAS MADE AS A CONCEALED WEAPON.
SMALL PICTURE SAID TO HAVE BEEN MOGUL SISSOR DAGGER. OTHER ONE HAS TEXT.

VANDOO · 28th August 2012, 01:29 AM

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SCISSOR DAGGER CLOSED ON EBY. 16.5 CM. LONG IDENTIFIED AS EUROPEAN ESTIMATED 1800 TO 1875. SELLERS INFO.

Timo Nieminen · 28th August 2012, 10:44 PM

Indian. You know those Indian knife-and-fork sets, with a carving-style kinfe and a carving-style fork that sit in a wooden holder, one inserted from each end? Those have guards in that style, complete with the hole (sometimes just a notch) for the latch to clip in/over. I have seen similar scissors a few times; this is such without the holder.

VANDOO · 29th August 2012, 12:12 AM

I HAVE A SET WITH KNIFE AND FORK BUT HAD NOT SEEN ONE WITH THE SCISSORS BEFORE. THANKS ANOTHER MYSTERY SOLVED.

29th April 2012, 01:54 AM	#1
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Salaams Ibrahiim, I too cannot find a definative reference to scissor daggers being a genuine weapon. I do find that references refer mainly to Ottoman or Persian examples. Both civilisations were subject to subtifugue and assasination...perhaps there are a few genuine examples used by an assassin or perhaps as personel protection There are so called reproductions of 14th Century European scissor daggers but cannot find an original version Kind Regards David Last edited by katana; 29th April 2012 at 12:24 PM.

29th April 2012, 03:49 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	OVER THE YEARS I HAVE SEEN SISSOR DAGGERS FOR SALE BUT NEVER HAD ONE. SOME WERE SAID TO LOOK LIKE SISSORS BUT DID NOT OPEN AND WERE A DOUBBLE EDGED BLADE. THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAID TO COME FROM PERSIA OR MOGUL SOURCES. I SUSPECT ANY THING OPENING LIKE A SISSORS AND HAVING NO EDGE TO THE OUTSIDE IS A SISSOR SOMETHING WITH A SOLID BLADE AND EDGES A TRUE DAGGER. PERHAPS SOMEONE HAS HANDLED ONE? IN DANGEROUS TIMES PERHAPS SOMETHING LIKE THIS WAS MADE AS A CONCEALED WEAPON. SMALL PICTURE SAID TO HAVE BEEN MOGUL SISSOR DAGGER. OTHER ONE HAS TEXT. Attached Images

28th August 2012, 01:29 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SCISSOR DAGGER CLOSED ON EBY. 16.5 CM. LONG IDENTIFIED AS EUROPEAN ESTIMATED 1800 TO 1875. SELLERS INFO. Attached Images

28th August 2012, 10:44 PM	#4
Timo Nieminen Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 422	Indian. You know those Indian knife-and-fork sets, with a carving-style kinfe and a carving-style fork that sit in a wooden holder, one inserted from each end? Those have guards in that style, complete with the hole (sometimes just a notch) for the latch to clip in/over. I have seen similar scissors a few times; this is such without the holder.

29th August 2012, 12:12 AM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I HAVE A SET WITH KNIFE AND FORK BUT HAD NOT SEEN ONE WITH THE SCISSORS BEFORE. THANKS ANOTHER MYSTERY SOLVED.