FLINTLOCK GUN WITH CHRISTIAN 7 MARK FOR ID

Matchlock · 25th April 2012, 05:41 PM

I do not know the exact model either but both stocks are clearly of beechwood, which was the characteristic type of wood used for Central and North European military guns from the 17th to the 19th c.

Best,
Michael

Cerjak · 26th April 2012, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

I do not know the exact model either but both stocks are clearly of beechwood, which was the characteristic type of wood used for Central and North European military guns from the 17th to the 19th c.

Best,
Michael

Yes Michael it is beechwood and with this wood as you can see the stock could cross 2 more centuries without any problem

Regards

Cerjak

Matchlock · 26th April 2012, 08:32 PM

Hi Cerjak,

Almost all of my 17th c. matchlock and wheellock muskets are stocked in beechwood, and they all have been fine for 400 years - give or take a worm hole or two!

Best,
Michael

ashoka · 26th April 2012, 10:18 PM

....... wow!

Matchlock · 26th April 2012, 10:44 PM

Thanks!

Though just one single aspect of more than 35 years of closest possible 'academic' collecting confined to earliest Northern European 'Military' firearms and related accouterments.

In case you are interested in seeing more, please check out my threads.

m

Matchlock · 30th April 2012, 03:23 PM

Hi Cerjak,

I think I finally found what you were looking for: the Tojhusmuseet Copenhagen indentifies your Christian 7 flintlock musket as the Danish model m. 1774, no. 569, the third from the top in my scans.
It seems to be the very first Danish model to feature four ramrod pipes.

I knew it was somewhere in my library, and the scans are taken from Claude Blair, European and American Arms, 1962 and still on top!

You were pretty close in guessing the correct year of this model so.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 30th April 2012, 03:37 PM

Btw, could we please see a close-up of your m. 1774 musket, with the cock in the safety-catch position and the frizzen covering the pan?
It seems to me that even the amber-colored flint, together with its lead lining, might originally belong! The flint appears to have been fired a bit blunt, which is often the case with such genuine old-time accouterments.

m

25th April 2012, 05:41 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	I do not know the exact model either but both stocks are clearly of beechwood, which was the characteristic type of wood used for Central and North European military guns from the 17th to the 19th c. Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 25th April 2012 at 06:04 PM.

26th April 2012, 08:32 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Cerjak, Almost all of my 17th c. matchlock and wheellock muskets are stocked in beechwood, and they all have been fine for 400 years - give or take a worm hole or two! Best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 26th April 2012 at 09:54 PM.

30th April 2012, 03:23 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Cerjak, I think I finally found what you were looking for: the Tojhusmuseet Copenhagen indentifies your Christian 7 flintlock musket as the Danish model m. 1774, no. 569, the third from the top in my scans. It seems to be the very first Danish model to feature four ramrod pipes. I knew it was somewhere in my library, and the scans are taken from Claude Blair, European and American Arms, 1962 and still on top! You were pretty close in guessing the correct year of this model so. Best, Michael Attached Images

30th April 2012, 03:37 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Btw, could we please see a close-up of your m. 1774 musket, with the cock in the safety-catch position and the frizzen covering the pan? It seems to me that even the amber-colored flint, together with its lead lining, might originally belong! The flint appears to have been fired a bit blunt, which is often the case with such genuine old-time accouterments. m Last edited by Matchlock; 30th April 2012 at 04:03 PM.

26th April 2012, 10:18 PM	#4
ashoka Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 61	....... wow!

26th April 2012, 10:44 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Thanks! Though just one single aspect of more than 35 years of closest possible 'academic' collecting confined to earliest Northern European 'Military' firearms and related accouterments. In case you are interested in seeing more, please check out my threads. m