Flamberg Two-hand Swords, late 16th-Early-17th Century

fernando · 20th April 2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Matchlock

And probably retaining their correct hammers, I guess!

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Matchlock · 20th April 2012, 05:52 PM

All that a dedicated collector is to such smug people is a nuisance and an inconvenient amateur trying to air himself.
I gave up pointing out errors to museum people decades ago. It's just not worth my breath, and I guess they like me better when I keep silent or just say 'wow', pretending to be impressed - which of course I am, in the negative sense of the word!

Best,
Michl

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 20th April 2012, 06:50 PM

Salaams all~ There are those exhibits in some museums which need to be corrected on detail ... we all know of examples.. however many of the museums experts are very helpful so on balance I think they come out on top. No one on the other hand has the right to look down his nose upon those students of Ethnographic arms who are trying to learn the ropes... I think everyone agrees on that ..

....but why cannot Ethnographic Arms be studied as a formal degree course..? These days degrees can be undertaken on virtually any subject. It is a very worthy study subject...certainly enough content in it to merit a doctorate no?

My question develops ~ Why don't we at this forum expand the equation to include Forum certified courses on Ethnographic Arms and Armour? There are enough qualified persons on Forum to generate this as a series of modules. This Forum already has doctorate level individuals in most fields. What is the definition of University Study? Has anyone ever approached a leading University for accreditation of such a series of modules?

Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Matchlock · 20th April 2012, 07:07 PM

You took the words right out of my mouth, Ibrahiim,

Yes, weaponry is not a study subject. Most museum peopple graduated in art history, at best. Of course they never heard a word on weapons during their university years.
You have to be an autodidactic self-made man to be an A&A expert.

Best,
Michael

Emanuel · 21st April 2012, 10:40 AM

Great discussion folks, a pleasure to read, as always!

Part of my post-secondary education was as a Specialist in Fine Art History. The program covered quite a bit, both in architecture and plastic arts, but military architecture and the artistry of arms was 100% disregarded.

Regards,
Emanuel

20th April 2012, 05:52 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	All that a dedicated collector is to such smug people is a nuisance and an inconvenient amateur trying to air himself. I gave up pointing out errors to museum people decades ago. It's just not worth my breath, and I guess they like me better when I keep silent or just say 'wow', pretending to be impressed - which of course I am, in the negative sense of the word! Best, Michl

20th April 2012, 06:50 PM	#3
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Salaams all~ There are those exhibits in some museums which need to be corrected on detail ... we all know of examples.. however many of the museums experts are very helpful so on balance I think they come out on top. No one on the other hand has the right to look down his nose upon those students of Ethnographic arms who are trying to learn the ropes... I think everyone agrees on that .. ....but why cannot Ethnographic Arms be studied as a formal degree course..? These days degrees can be undertaken on virtually any subject. It is a very worthy study subject...certainly enough content in it to merit a doctorate no? My question develops ~ Why don't we at this forum expand the equation to include Forum certified courses on Ethnographic Arms and Armour? There are enough qualified persons on Forum to generate this as a series of modules. This Forum already has doctorate level individuals in most fields. What is the definition of University Study? Has anyone ever approached a leading University for accreditation of such a series of modules? Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

20th April 2012, 07:07 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	You took the words right out of my mouth, Ibrahiim, Yes, weaponry is not a study subject. Most museum peopple graduated in art history, at best. Of course they never heard a word on weapons during their university years. You have to be an autodidactic self-made man to be an A&A expert. Best, Michael

21st April 2012, 10:40 AM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Great discussion folks, a pleasure to read, as always! Part of my post-secondary education was as a Specialist in Fine Art History. The program covered quite a bit, both in architecture and plastic arts, but military architecture and the artistry of arms was 100% disregarded. Regards, Emanuel