Another of My Kerises

Jean · 18th April 2012, 04:23 PM

Hi Dan,
I can fully understand that you like the blade & sheath of your kris in their original condition because of their age and history, but no way for the hilt!
I attach a picture of a Madurese hilt which your piece is suppose to copy and expect that you can notice the difference in craftsmanship.

Regards

Greybeard · 18th April 2012, 04:42 PM

Hi Dan, I really appreciate you for giving those seemingly "unwanted" kerises a home. They certainly deserve it! My suggestion: Just clean the blade from any rust and -- if you can -- replace the hilt with a better Maduranese one (as suggested by Jean). And then enjoy and love this old piece! Regards, Heinz

dbhmgb · 18th April 2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Greybeard

Hi Dan, I really appreciate you for giving those seemingly "unwanted" kerises a home. They certainly deserve it! My suggestion: Just clean the blade from any rust and -- if you can -- replace the hilt with a better Maduranese one (as suggested by Jean). And then enjoy and love this old piece! Regards, Heinz

Thanks Heinz. To let you know, these picture are older and since I took them I cleaned the blade a bit with lime juice and then oiled it quite liberally.

Greybeard · 18th April 2012, 08:16 PM

Hi Dan, fine that you cleaned your blade from that rust; this was my most concern about your keris. Regarding the hilt, if you really like it just keep it, because you are the only one who needs to like it -- nobody else!

dbhmgb · 18th April 2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Greybeard

Hi Dan, fine that you cleaned your blade from that rust; this was my most concern about your keris. Regarding the hilt, if you really like it just keep it, because you are the only one who needs to like it -- nobody else!

Very true! I have no friends or family that care about my collection - their eyes glaze over if I mention "keris".

My grandson is still under one year old - I'm hoping to hook him when he gets older!

Greybeard · 18th April 2012, 09:18 PM

Dan, we are in the same situation. Nobody cares about my "great" keris collection except myself. And I'm an older man. I still hope that I can hook my son one day ...

Sajen · 18th April 2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Greybeard

Dan, we are in the same situation. Nobody cares about my "great" keris collection except myself. And I'm an older man. I still hope that I can hook my son one day ...

Oh, I think with this problem you both not alone!

Rick · 18th April 2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dbhmgb

Very true! I have no friends or family that care about my collection - their eyes glaze over if I mention "keris".

You too ?!?

Welcome to the boat .

Henk · 18th April 2012, 10:57 PM

Blub....Blub..... Can i join this sailing party??

dbhmgb · 19th April 2012, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Hi Dan,
I can fully understand that you like the blade & sheath of your kris in their original condition because of their age and history, but no way for the hilt!
I attach a picture of a Madurese hilt which your piece is suppose to copy and expect that you can notice the difference in craftsmanship.

Regards

Jean,

Yes, I can see a HUGE difference! I was looking on-line. I see the Madurese hilts as very ornate. Is this the trait of the hilts from this locale?

Thanks!

EDIT: Madurese Hilt Thread - I found my answer!

Sajen · 19th April 2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dbhmgb

EDIT: Madurese Hilt Thread - I found my answer!

This is only one form of Madurese hilts, there are a lot of others. But Madura hilts are normally masterpieces of carving.

Henk · 19th April 2012, 05:05 PM

Cleaning of a blade can be done with a fresh lemon or lime. It takes some time. With a rusty blade i brush the blade with the fresh lemon or lime. Put the piece of lemon on the rusty spot and pack the whole thing in plastic and let it rest for some time. The unpack it and scrub again with the lemon until the rust is gone. Staining is done with warangan like Detlef said. Search for it on this forum.

The hilts you found are indeed a form of madura hilts.

This link shows other maduran ukirans.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=madura

David · 19th April 2012, 05:28 PM

Personally i use pineapple juice because it is less aggressive than lemon or lime acid. With this blade, less aggressive might be a good idea.

dbhmgb · 19th April 2012, 05:56 PM

I figured it required warangan. Arsenic is something I have no access to, and using it is not something I would attempt.

I will attempt a soaking in pineapple juice as David suggests.

I really appreciate all the feedback, thank you all!

Greybeard · 19th April 2012, 06:03 PM

Hi Dan, I use to clean my blades with diluted vinegar -- not a traditional method, I know. But for me it works very fine for many years ...

18th April 2012, 04:23 PM	#1
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hi Dan, I can fully understand that you like the blade & sheath of your kris in their original condition because of their age and history, but no way for the hilt! I attach a picture of a Madurese hilt which your piece is suppose to copy and expect that you can notice the difference in craftsmanship. Regards Attached Images

18th April 2012, 04:42 PM	#2
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Hi Dan, I really appreciate you for giving those seemingly "unwanted" kerises a home. They certainly deserve it! My suggestion: Just clean the blade from any rust and -- if you can -- replace the hilt with a better Maduranese one (as suggested by Jean). And then enjoy and love this old piece! Regards, Heinz

18th April 2012, 08:16 PM	#4
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Hi Dan, fine that you cleaned your blade from that rust; this was my most concern about your keris. Regarding the hilt, if you really like it just keep it, because you are the only one who needs to like it -- nobody else!

18th April 2012, 09:18 PM	#6
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Dan, we are in the same situation. Nobody cares about my "great" keris collection except myself. And I'm an older man. I still hope that I can hook my son one day ...

18th April 2012, 10:57 PM	#9
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Blub....Blub..... Can i join this sailing party??

19th April 2012, 05:05 PM	#12
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Cleaning of a blade can be done with a fresh lemon or lime. It takes some time. With a rusty blade i brush the blade with the fresh lemon or lime. Put the piece of lemon on the rusty spot and pack the whole thing in plastic and let it rest for some time. The unpack it and scrub again with the lemon until the rust is gone. Staining is done with warangan like Detlef said. Search for it on this forum. The hilts you found are indeed a form of madura hilts. This link shows other maduran ukirans. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=madura

19th April 2012, 05:28 PM	#13
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Personally i use pineapple juice because it is less aggressive than lemon or lime acid. With this blade, less aggressive might be a good idea.

19th April 2012, 05:56 PM	#14
dbhmgb Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 112	I figured it required warangan. Arsenic is something I have no access to, and using it is not something I would attempt. I will attempt a soaking in pineapple juice as David suggests. I really appreciate all the feedback, thank you all!

19th April 2012, 06:03 PM	#15
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Hi Dan, I use to clean my blades with diluted vinegar -- not a traditional method, I know. But for me it works very fine for many years ...