Two kris

[Amuk Murugul]

Originally Posted by Indianajones

Also; did you see the strange square hole in the scabbard of the 2nd kris!?!?
Wonder why that is there? It seems to have patine in the inneredges. (I am not an expert on these Southern krisses)

..... hole for belt-clasp/hanger insert.

BTW ..... Both items appear to be of last quarter of 19thC manufacture.

Best,

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

..... hole for belt-clasp/hanger insert.
Best,

Good possible!

Regards,

Detlef

[kai]

Hello Detlef,

Both kris look like turn-of-century examples to me. The first blade also looks a bit Maranao-ish to me...

I don't think the excision was meant for a hanger block - these tend to be rare and situated at the center of the scabbard (only needed for the crosspiece-less Maguindanao scabbards anyway). Could you please try to get a close-up of this?

Regards,
Kai

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Detlef,

Both kris look like turn-of-century examples to me. The first blade also looks a bit Maranao-ish to me...

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,

the attribution was from Jose by pm. But since both kris come from the same source... Could it maybe a trade blade? Or a cross cultural piece?

Regards,

Detlef

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kai

Could you please try to get a close-up of this?

Can't, both kris was send to Jose who received them today!

[Battara]

Originally Posted by kai

Both kris look like turn-of-century examples to me. The first blade also looks a bit Maranao-ish to me...

The first one says Maguindanao to me and the second says Maranao. They would be very similar in style since they are next door neighbors.

[Sajen]

The seller send me today the name from the soldier who bring with this bot kris: James Hart from Pennsylvania. Is it possible to find this name in some list from the Spanish American War? Where I have to search?

Regards,

Detlef

[Ferguson]

Originally Posted by Sajen

The seller send me today the name from the soldier who bring with this bot kris: James Hart from Pennsylvania. Is it possible to find this name in some list from the Spanish American War? Where I have to search?

Regards,

Detlef

Maybe this fellow. Started with Google,

Steve



http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=27214008

http://www.paspanishamericanwar.com/...egiment/h.html

HART, James W. P., Private, Co. H; Residence: Washington, Pa.; Enrolled June 20, 1898; Mustered in June 25, 1898; Joined Regiment at Manila, P. I., Dec. 2, 1898; Mustered out with company Aug. 22, 1899.

http://www.paspanishamericanwar.com/tenthregiment/

But there are other Harts listed with the initial J in their names.
http://www.paspanishamericanwar.com/rosters.html

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Ferguson

Maybe this fellow. Started with Google,

Steve



http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=27214008

http://www.paspanishamericanwar.com/...egiment/h.html

HART, James W. P., Private, Co. H; Residence: Washington, Pa.; Enrolled June 20, 1898; Mustered in June 25, 1898; Joined Regiment at Manila, P. I., Dec. 2, 1898; Mustered out with company Aug. 22, 1899.

http://www.paspanishamericanwar.com/tenthregiment/

But there are other Harts listed with the initial J in their names.
http://www.paspanishamericanwar.com/rosters.html

Hello Steve,

thank you so much! I think that it should be this man! I have searched by Google as well but found many many soldiers with this name but don't found your second link!

Great help!!

Regards,

Detlef