Keris Salayer ?

asomotif · 17th April 2012, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Agree with kai that the pesi is a little bit weird. BTW, I never have disassembled my Salayer badik and can't tell if the pesi is similar.

Again, a very interesting keris and I am a little bit green with envy!

Regards,

Detlef

I checked my salayer badek.
I am not going to remove the blade from the handel, but as far as I can see the blade appears to remain flattened into the handle.
So a flattened tang/pesi on the badek imho.

I agree on the "green with envy" part

henri · 17th April 2012, 11:30 AM

Thank you all for your inputs .
Kai is really close to my initial thoughts : a sumatran keris brought back to Salayer and re hilted according local fashion .

Regarding the hilt : cleaning is on the way but I removed the blade from the " juice " to take some photos of the pesi . Surprisingly a piece of metal was welded to the original ( to strengthen or to match the hilt ?) .... with an unsual goldish alloy ???? Never seen such metal used for welding .....

Henri

David · 17th April 2012, 01:56 PM

Well that is odd. Never seen anything quite like it.

Sajen · 17th April 2012, 03:11 PM

I think that the pesi was broken and someone repaired it like this and hard-solder a second piece of iron to the original pesi to aggravate it. Just MHO.

Regards,

Detlef

kai · 17th April 2012, 09:23 PM

Hello Henri,

This repair job to strengthen the remaining pesi explains the slightly offset tang position.

I doubt that this is Indonesian work though - possibly some European attempt at a pesi repair? We could use Alan's insight, I guess!

Regards,
Kai

dbhmgb · 17th April 2012, 10:40 PM

It's amazing how much better the wilah is already looking.

VVV · 18th April 2012, 06:13 AM

The pesi looks strange so you better keep the hilt on.
What fascinated me about it was the four petal flower which I haven't seen before on this kind of hilt. My keris hilt has leaves but the hilts on the badek doesn't.

Michael

henri · 18th April 2012, 07:45 AM

Nice one also Michael . May be mine was the local Florist ' s keris !

Could you please post a photo from the top showing the ganja fully inserted into the sheath ? It seems to be out of the wrangka .

Henri

17th April 2012, 11:30 AM	#2
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Thank you all for your inputs . Kai is really close to my initial thoughts : a sumatran keris brought back to Salayer and re hilted according local fashion . Regarding the hilt : cleaning is on the way but I removed the blade from the " juice " to take some photos of the pesi . Surprisingly a piece of metal was welded to the original ( to strengthen or to match the hilt ?) .... with an unsual goldish alloy ???? Never seen such metal used for welding ..... Henri Attached Images

18th April 2012, 06:13 AM	#7
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	The pesi looks strange so you better keep the hilt on. What fascinated me about it was the four petal flower which I haven't seen before on this kind of hilt. My keris hilt has leaves but the hilts on the badek doesn't. Michael Attached Images

17th April 2012, 01:56 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Well that is odd. Never seen anything quite like it.

17th April 2012, 03:11 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	I think that the pesi was broken and someone repaired it like this and hard-solder a second piece of iron to the original pesi to aggravate it. Just MHO. Regards, Detlef

17th April 2012, 09:23 PM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Henri, This repair job to strengthen the remaining pesi explains the slightly offset tang position. I doubt that this is Indonesian work though - possibly some European attempt at a pesi repair? We could use Alan's insight, I guess! Regards, Kai

17th April 2012, 10:40 PM	#6
dbhmgb Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 112	It's amazing how much better the wilah is already looking.

18th April 2012, 07:45 AM	#8
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Nice one also Michael . May be mine was the local Florist ' s keris ! Could you please post a photo from the top showing the ganja fully inserted into the sheath ? It seems to be out of the wrangka . Henri