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also, 19th C mughal handle with some kundan applied much later, likely in 20th C.
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since we're on a mughal subject - here are few handles in most common mughal horse forms. Just like with new kundan - one thing is when you're looking superficially or on blury pictures, but when you start comparing with authentic mughal, the difference becomes much clearer.
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Yes seeing examples of quality differences is invaluable.
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Kundan is a very interesting subject, but few collectors know much about what it is. Some of the reasons could be, that good kundan work is rare, and so very expensive. Another reason could be, that on many of the hilts with gold and gems all of value have been removed and sold seperately.
I recently found somethingg interesting about kundan. In Treasurers of the World. Jewelled Arts of India in the Age of the Mughals. The Al-Sabah Collection, Kuwait National Museum, the authors Manuel Keene and Salam Kaoukji on page 18 writes about the varieties in stone settings. It says that kundan was invented, '...Probably in the centuries immediately preceding the birth of Christ...' I never knew that the technique was that old – did you? 'Kundan, or hyper-purified gold, is beaten into narrow strips of foil and refined to the point at which it becomes ‘tacky’ to room temperature. At this degree of purity, it can actually form a molecular bond when pressure is applied to it by means of steel tools, which are first used to press the foil down around the stones, then to cut, shape and burnish it into any form that the artist may wish.... It can even be used on ivory and wood... There is no evidence that this technique was ever practised anywhere except in India.' It is most interesting to read that the gold can form a molecular bond with several materials, as no glue would be needed to keep the gold in place, and the soft gold could easily be hammered down around the gem. Alex, the hilt to the right in post 10 is not a horse, althought it could look like the head of a horse, it is a nilgai - notice the small horns. Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 27th November 2015 at 04:48 PM. |
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Jens I read that too in that catalogue, but don't now anything more about kundan technique.
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If I have to be honest - I dont have a clue either. Strange how many people know what the technique means, but very few know how it is done.
Have a look here. http://www.gemologyonline.com/Forum/...pic.php?t=1754 I just saw this. http://blog.mirraw.com/2012/09/18/wh...undan-jewelry/ So there seem to be different oppinions of how it was done. Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 28th November 2015 at 04:07 PM. |
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After reading both, I lean towards the first one. Makes more sense, although I have a rough time believing that some amount of heat is not needed.
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Jens, these are not horns, these are true inward-turned ears: a specific feature of the so-called Marwari horse. |
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http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/...&tabname=label Dagger with Hilt in the Form of a Blue Bull (Nilgai) Object Name: Dagger Date: ca. 1640 Geography: India Culture: Islamic Medium: Hilt: Nephrite Blade: Watered steel Dimensions: H. 15 in. (38.1 cm) Classification: Stone Credit Line: Gift of Alice Heeramaneck, in memory of Nasli Heeramaneck, 1985 Accession Number: 1985.58a, b On view in Gallery 463 Quote:
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