talking to an old PI soldier

Rick · 21st August 2005, 08:30 PM

Hi Freddy,
Again in the context we are speaking of ( Moro swords ) the weapon's primary use (19c. on) is not as a stabbing weapon but as a slashing , chopping type of sword . I agree that puncture wounds are indeed dangerous and more often fatal than a slash ; but if a body is cleaved from clavicle to mid sternum in a jungle environment far from any hospital . I would think that death by exsanguination let alone organ damage would be inevitable .

For inflicting puncture wounds I would think the budiak or many of the widely varied trailside booby traps would be the preferred weapons .

Bill · 21st August 2005, 09:09 PM

I got some pretty graphic accounts of the damage from the kris, all were from using it as a slashing sword. It was quite clear that the sword will pass through flesh & bone, completing the swing.

ariel · 21st August 2005, 11:28 PM

I think I already mentioned it here: a blade stabbing deeper than 2.5 inches anywhere into the human trunk damages a vital structure.
Slashing wound bleeds a lot, but stabbing kills.

Bill · 21st August 2005, 11:46 PM

We are talking slashing wounds several inches deep. He said he saw men's arms removed & it did not stop the blade from slashing through thier chest.

Rick · 22nd August 2005, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

I think I already mentioned it here: a blade stabbing deeper than 2.5 inches anywhere into the human trunk damages a vital structure.
Slashing wound bleeds a lot, but stabbing kills.

Then by that logic a 2.5 inch deep slash would qualify , no ?

Lew · 22nd August 2005, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

I think I already mentioned it here: a blade stabbing deeper than 2.5 inches anywhere into the human trunk damages a vital structure.
Slashing wound bleeds a lot, but stabbing kills.

Ariel

A blow from a large heavy kris can cleave a man from the collar bone down through and into the chest cavity it can easliy remove arms,legs and heads. The straight kris cleaves more like short heavy European viking swords.

Lew

21st August 2005, 08:30 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Hi Freddy, Again in the context we are speaking of ( Moro swords ) the weapon's primary use (19c. on) is not as a stabbing weapon but as a slashing , chopping type of sword . I agree that puncture wounds are indeed dangerous and more often fatal than a slash ; but if a body is cleaved from clavicle to mid sternum in a jungle environment far from any hospital . I would think that death by exsanguination let alone organ damage would be inevitable . For inflicting puncture wounds I would think the budiak or many of the widely varied trailside booby traps would be the preferred weapons .

21st August 2005, 09:09 PM	#2
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	I got some pretty graphic accounts of the damage from the kris, all were from using it as a slashing sword. It was quite clear that the sword will pass through flesh & bone, completing the swing.

21st August 2005, 11:28 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I think I already mentioned it here: a blade stabbing deeper than 2.5 inches anywhere into the human trunk damages a vital structure. Slashing wound bleeds a lot, but stabbing kills.

21st August 2005, 11:46 PM	#4
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	We are talking slashing wounds several inches deep. He said he saw men's arms removed & it did not stop the blade from slashing through thier chest.