old interesting talibesque/moroesque sword

VANDOO · 27th December 2004, 03:24 AM

THE BASIC SHAPE DOES LOOK LIKE A PHILIPPINE TYPE, ITS JUST THE CARVING THAT DOSENT LOOK PHILIPPINE TO ME. PERHAPS THIS TYPE OF CARVING IS DONE SOMEWHERE IN THE ISLANDS BUT IT ISN'T LIKE ANYTHING I HAVE SEEN FROM THAT AREA.
ANOTHER POSSIBILITY IS THE DESIGNS WERE INFLUENCED OR BORROWED FROM ANOTHER AREA BY SAILORS FROM THE PHILIPPINES OR COPYED FROM BOOK DESIGNS OR FORIGN ARTEFACTS. I HOPE SOMEONE HAS SEEN OTHER EXAMPLES AND CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON ITS ORIGINS.

Spunjer · 27th December 2004, 01:39 PM

i don't know guys, i was watching this auction myself. having lived in hawaii, the hilt/scabbard has a strong polynesian motif on it...

tom hyle · 27th December 2004, 10:07 PM

The carving on the grip area resembles kris hilts I've seen, while the pommel resembles the cockatoo type of the southern PI. the scabbard and scabbard slide/belt dealie also seem to be pretty closely of the "talibon" type, though the sheath-locker is missing and even seemingly reversed (?). I actually think we might be looking at something particularly old here, with indeed an older style of carving. Alternately, it could be modern cultural cross polination. The beginning of Moby Dick comes to mind, with the Polynesian sailors in the New England port town.

27th December 2004, 10:07 PM	#3
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	The carving on the grip area resembles kris hilts I've seen, while the pommel resembles the cockatoo type of the southern PI. the scabbard and scabbard slide/belt dealie also seem to be pretty closely of the "talibon" type, though the sheath-locker is missing and even seemingly reversed (?). I actually think we might be looking at something particularly old here, with indeed an older style of carving. Alternately, it could be modern cultural cross polination. The beginning of Moby Dick comes to mind, with the Polynesian sailors in the New England port town. Last edited by tom hyle; 27th December 2004 at 10:11 PM. Reason: missed something

27th December 2004, 03:24 AM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE BASIC SHAPE DOES LOOK LIKE A PHILIPPINE TYPE, ITS JUST THE CARVING THAT DOSENT LOOK PHILIPPINE TO ME. PERHAPS THIS TYPE OF CARVING IS DONE SOMEWHERE IN THE ISLANDS BUT IT ISN'T LIKE ANYTHING I HAVE SEEN FROM THAT AREA. ANOTHER POSSIBILITY IS THE DESIGNS WERE INFLUENCED OR BORROWED FROM ANOTHER AREA BY SAILORS FROM THE PHILIPPINES OR COPYED FROM BOOK DESIGNS OR FORIGN ARTEFACTS. I HOPE SOMEONE HAS SEEN OTHER EXAMPLES AND CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON ITS ORIGINS.

27th December 2004, 01:39 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	i don't know guys, i was watching this auction myself. having lived in hawaii, the hilt/scabbard has a strong polynesian motif on it...