British naval sword m1827

Evgeny_K · 6th February 2012, 07:37 AM

This is M1846 naval sword, not M1827.
I don't think that it could be a reproduction.

asomotif · 6th February 2012, 11:54 AM

I am with Norman and Evgeny.

Not a repro, but just an affordable alternative as officers had to buy their own sword.

The royal Cypher on the blade would be nice to see in order date the sword.
Also a picture of the handle and of the scabbard mountings would give some more insight in the overall quality of this sword.

Best regards,
Willem

thinreadline · 7th February 2012, 08:14 AM

This pattern of naval sword has been heavily reproduced in India and sold via World Wide Arms, however, whether any of them have the Gieves name on them I so not know, though I have seen them with a variety of makers / retailers on the blade. The crown is a Kings crown and so this puports to be post 1902 . It must also therefore be ( if genuine ) pre 1953. Gieves changed its name to Gieves & Hawkes in 1974 . The repro swords ( & I am not saying this is a repro ) were never supplied with a sword knot, but World Wide Arms have been selling genuine naval sword knots which they acquired from Wilkinsons when they closed down.

Alexander · 11th February 2012, 05:56 PM

I send additional photos.

broadaxe · 11th February 2012, 06:35 PM

I stand correct, much better photos show good details. King George the 5th emblem (reignd 1910-1936), this is a genuine sword.

fernando · 11th February 2012, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadaxe

I stand correct, much better photos show good details. King George the 5th emblem (reignd 1910-1936), this is a genuine sword.

Amen

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.... with owner's name and everything

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thinreadline · 16th February 2012, 12:42 AM

As Gieves still exists as Gieves & Hawkes, you could try asking them to check in their records for when the sword was sold . Most retailers kept order books .
Richmond

11th February 2012, 05:56 PM	#4
Alexander Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Russia, Moscow. Posts: 48	I send additional photos. Attached Images

6th February 2012, 07:37 AM	#1
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 213	This is M1846 naval sword, not M1827. I don't think that it could be a reproduction.

6th February 2012, 11:54 AM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	I am with Norman and Evgeny. Not a repro, but just an affordable alternative as officers had to buy their own sword. The royal Cypher on the blade would be nice to see in order date the sword. Also a picture of the handle and of the scabbard mountings would give some more insight in the overall quality of this sword. Best regards, Willem

7th February 2012, 08:14 AM	#3
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	This pattern of naval sword has been heavily reproduced in India and sold via World Wide Arms, however, whether any of them have the Gieves name on them I so not know, though I have seen them with a variety of makers / retailers on the blade. The crown is a Kings crown and so this puports to be post 1902 . It must also therefore be ( if genuine ) pre 1953. Gieves changed its name to Gieves & Hawkes in 1974 . The repro swords ( & I am not saying this is a repro ) were never supplied with a sword knot, but World Wide Arms have been selling genuine naval sword knots which they acquired from Wilkinsons when they closed down.

11th February 2012, 06:35 PM	#5
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334	I stand correct, much better photos show good details. King George the 5th emblem (reignd 1910-1936), this is a genuine sword.

16th February 2012, 12:42 AM	#7
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	As Gieves still exists as Gieves & Hawkes, you could try asking them to check in their records for when the sword was sold . Most retailers kept order books . Richmond