Little old double barreled pistol

Fernando K · 31st January 2012, 03:09 PM

Hola:

Me parece que se trata de una pistola belga, de aproximadamente 1860. Las marcas, en todo caso, son del Banco de Pruebas de Lieja (Liege). Los cañones (barrel) son seguramente desenroscables, y si así es, tienen en la boca una muescas ( 4 o 8 ) para in troducir una heramienta y girar los cañones (barrel)

Afectuosamente. Fernando K

Hi

I think it's a Belgian pistol, approximately 1860. The proof marks, in any case, are those of Liege . The barrels are probably the turn off type, and if so, have notches in the muzzles (4 or 8) to introduce a tool to screw them off

Affectionately. Fernando K

M ELEY · 31st January 2012, 03:30 PM

I second Fernando K.'s assessment.The only thing I would add is that these were popular as "boot pistols" in the American Old West, but of course were used throughout Europe as well. Nice piece...

Maurice · 31st January 2012, 04:14 PM

Thank you both for your great help.
Liege is very likely, as I got it from somebody in my neighbourhood.
Liege in Belgium is only an hour drive from where I live.

Kind Regards,
Maurice

SERGIU · 31st January 2012, 04:51 PM

in my region of western Romania-Eastern Hungary this pistols were very popular. Around here they are called "traveler's pistol"(pistol de calator).

Maurice · 31st January 2012, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SERGIU

in my region of western Romania-Eastern Hungary this pistols were very popular. Around here they are called "traveler's pistol"(pistol de calator).

Where that also Belgium pistols which were exported to other countries? Or made in Romania and looked similar?

Maurice

Fernando K · 1st February 2012, 02:04 PM

Hola:

No sé si la pregunta ha sido a mí, pero respondo
Las armas belgas han sido exportadas a todas partes del mundo. Aquí, en Argentina (mi país) se han comprado fusiles copia del "Brown Bess", incluso con punzones ingleses falsos, para hacer creer que eran originales. Incluso producían para la corona británica, llaves de chispa y cañones (barrel),.que después eran punzonados por los ingleses. Han copiado al Enfield, que vendieron a todo el mundo. Brasil tiene un modelo reglamentario, Minie, producido en Bélgica. Han reproducido el "rolling block", etc., etc.,

Afectuosamente. Fernando K

Hi

I do not know if the question has been to me, but respond
Belgian weapons have been exported to all over the world. Here in Argentina (my country) rifles have been purchased copy of "Brown Bess", even with false British punches, to make it appear genuine. Even produced for the British crown, and flintlock guns (barrel). Which were then punched by the British. Been copied to Enfield, which sold around the world. Brazil has a regulatory model, Minie, produced in Belgium. Have reproduced the "rolling block", etc.., ETC.

M ELEY · 1st February 2012, 04:10 PM

Liege was a major manufacturer of many patterns that were shipped world-wide. They made a large bore flintlock pistol that was used by naval personnel as boarding pistols (they lacked a ram-rod, as in the fray of boarding, one shot was all you got!). The boarding pistol of which I speak has the smaller ELG marking, with a V over crown. Time period was 1800-30. Also had a lanyard ring to tie rope to it and your wrist, thus not being washed over the side of the ship in battle. I'm told this same pattern (my pistol, not the one being discussed) also used by mounted British troops in Africa? Perhaps it was the Belgians?? Here is an article on the boarding pistol and Liege-

Don't want to take away from the original thread, just add info on the manufacturer-

(Well, article giving me some trouble on my server!!)
google search 'Dutch-Belgian Navy pistol littlegun' and you'll see it...

31st January 2012, 03:09 PM	#1
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 672	Hola: Me parece que se trata de una pistola belga, de aproximadamente 1860. Las marcas, en todo caso, son del Banco de Pruebas de Lieja (Liege). Los cañones (barrel) son seguramente desenroscables, y si así es, tienen en la boca una muescas ( 4 o 8 ) para in troducir una heramienta y girar los cañones (barrel) Afectuosamente. Fernando K Hi I think it's a Belgian pistol, approximately 1860. The proof marks, in any case, are those of Liege . The barrels are probably the turn off type, and if so, have notches in the muzzles (4 or 8) to introduce a tool to screw them off Affectionately. Fernando K Last edited by fernando; 31st January 2012 at 10:24 PM.

31st January 2012, 03:30 PM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,207	I second Fernando K.'s assessment.The only thing I would add is that these were popular as "boot pistols" in the American Old West, but of course were used throughout Europe as well. Nice piece...

31st January 2012, 04:14 PM	#3
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,462	Thank you both for your great help. Liege is very likely, as I got it from somebody in my neighbourhood. Liege in Belgium is only an hour drive from where I live. Kind Regards, Maurice

31st January 2012, 04:51 PM	#4
SERGIU Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Timisoara, Romania Posts: 32	in my region of western Romania-Eastern Hungary this pistols were very popular. Around here they are called "traveler's pistol"(pistol de calator).

1st February 2012, 02:04 PM	#6
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 672	Hola: No sé si la pregunta ha sido a mí, pero respondo Las armas belgas han sido exportadas a todas partes del mundo. Aquí, en Argentina (mi país) se han comprado fusiles copia del "Brown Bess", incluso con punzones ingleses falsos, para hacer creer que eran originales. Incluso producían para la corona británica, llaves de chispa y cañones (barrel),.que después eran punzonados por los ingleses. Han copiado al Enfield, que vendieron a todo el mundo. Brasil tiene un modelo reglamentario, Minie, producido en Bélgica. Han reproducido el "rolling block", etc., etc., Afectuosamente. Fernando K Hi I do not know if the question has been to me, but respond Belgian weapons have been exported to all over the world. Here in Argentina (my country) rifles have been purchased copy of "Brown Bess", even with false British punches, to make it appear genuine. Even produced for the British crown, and flintlock guns (barrel). Which were then punched by the British. Been copied to Enfield, which sold around the world. Brazil has a regulatory model, Minie, produced in Belgium. Have reproduced the "rolling block", etc.., ETC.

1st February 2012, 04:10 PM	#7
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,207	Liege was a major manufacturer of many patterns that were shipped world-wide. They made a large bore flintlock pistol that was used by naval personnel as boarding pistols (they lacked a ram-rod, as in the fray of boarding, one shot was all you got!). The boarding pistol of which I speak has the smaller ELG marking, with a V over crown. Time period was 1800-30. Also had a lanyard ring to tie rope to it and your wrist, thus not being washed over the side of the ship in battle. I'm told this same pattern (my pistol, not the one being discussed) also used by mounted British troops in Africa? Perhaps it was the Belgians?? Here is an article on the boarding pistol and Liege- Don't want to take away from the original thread, just add info on the manufacturer- (Well, article giving me some trouble on my server!!) google search 'Dutch-Belgian Navy pistol littlegun' and you'll see it...