Please authenticate this

fspic · 31st January 2012, 03:00 AM

Do a web search for scrap metal prices and you will get its true value.

I have seen some "interesting looking" pieces with a certain amount of illustrative work which were nonetheless torch cut from heavy sheet stock (kora). This doesn't always show up at first glance. A lot of real blades have cut in and silver filled work which seems rather crude but that is not unusual. It is necessary to look past that as the piece may be authentic.

I bought a shorter flat bladed saber with a Nepalese grip largely for the grip as I assumed the blade was newly made. A close examination of the spine seemed to show laminae. I checked several times and it still looked that way. Apparently it was a flat laminated blade which is a bit unusual.

Gavin Nugent · 31st January 2012, 03:17 AM

From the images it looks to have a piece from a late 19th/early 20th ceremonal axe but only just that at best....the rest, such as the spike if you can call it that and the T shaped hammer and the shaft all look to be modern pieces of "scrap" braized and welded on to create a "complete" axe...I use a lot of these words loosely as she ain't pretty.....

asomotif · 31st January 2012, 06:39 AM

When did we event electric welding techniques ?

thinreadline · 31st January 2012, 07:27 AM

I agree with the foregoing comments . This is a poorly cobbled together effort I am afraid . The axe head decoration is terribly crude .. even in late 19th pieces it is fine ... no real weapons maker could have made this ... it would have fallen apart if used in action and been laughed at if worn for a parade.

Atlantia · 31st January 2012, 10:17 AM

Hi Stan,

There come in various grades and ages. In this case I would have to say that your instinct was right on the money. This is the bottom end of the cheap scale.
It looks like it has a mixture of brazing and welded construction, crude blade with the most basic stamped decoration. the hammer back is just a roughly cut section of angle iron welded on and shaft made from a crimped section of tubular steel.

I'd say it's post WW2. You haven't misssed out on this one.

AJ1356 · 31st January 2012, 11:55 AM

It is as fake as they come, the maker did not even try to make it look real. to me it seems to be built out of modern construction materials.

31st January 2012, 03:17 AM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	From the images it looks to have a piece from a late 19th/early 20th ceremonal axe but only just that at best....the rest, such as the spike if you can call it that and the T shaped hammer and the shaft all look to be modern pieces of "scrap" braized and welded on to create a "complete" axe...I use a lot of these words loosely as she ain't pretty..... Last edited by freebooter; 31st January 2012 at 06:51 AM. Reason: spelling

31st January 2012, 03:00 AM	#1
fspic Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 27	Do a web search for scrap metal prices and you will get its true value. I have seen some "interesting looking" pieces with a certain amount of illustrative work which were nonetheless torch cut from heavy sheet stock (kora). This doesn't always show up at first glance. A lot of real blades have cut in and silver filled work which seems rather crude but that is not unusual. It is necessary to look past that as the piece may be authentic. I bought a shorter flat bladed saber with a Nepalese grip largely for the grip as I assumed the blade was newly made. A close examination of the spine seemed to show laminae. I checked several times and it still looked that way. Apparently it was a flat laminated blade which is a bit unusual.

31st January 2012, 06:39 AM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	When did we event electric welding techniques ?

31st January 2012, 07:27 AM	#4
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	I agree with the foregoing comments . This is a poorly cobbled together effort I am afraid . The axe head decoration is terribly crude .. even in late 19th pieces it is fine ... no real weapons maker could have made this ... it would have fallen apart if used in action and been laughed at if worn for a parade.

31st January 2012, 10:17 AM	#5
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Stan, There come in various grades and ages. In this case I would have to say that your instinct was right on the money. This is the bottom end of the cheap scale. It looks like it has a mixture of brazing and welded construction, crude blade with the most basic stamped decoration. the hammer back is just a roughly cut section of angle iron welded on and shaft made from a crimped section of tubular steel. I'd say it's post WW2. You haven't misssed out on this one.

31st January 2012, 11:55 AM	#6
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 317	It is as fake as they come, the maker did not even try to make it look real. to me it seems to be built out of modern construction materials.