help please with this short sword

Atlantia · 24th January 2012, 03:40 PM

Hi Richmond,
Can we see some clearer pictures of the blade decoration?
Best
Gene

Tim Simmons · 24th January 2012, 03:58 PM

The engraving on the blade very much reminds me of that on many older Mandau so I am going to suggest Borneo. I think there are many unrecognised blade forms from Borneo. I do not think it will be long before a Mandau with similar engraving pops up.

Sajen · 24th January 2012, 04:56 PM

Sorry Tim,

but the blade engraving reminds me to dha's I have seen and I really don't think that it is an indonesian sword. My guess that it is from Kambodcha, Laos or Vietnam but this is just my guess. The blade shape isn't like a dha but look at the tip of the sheath.

Regards,

Detlef

Tim Simmons · 27th January 2012, 06:48 PM

In the hope of exploring this thread and other unrecognised Borneo weapons. I ask just as a start. Mandau collectors please join in. I have had Mandaus with similar style engraving. Look at the midle Mandau in this link posted by Lee. We see the same form to the decorative plan. What we really need is better pictures from Richmond and more contributions.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14971

thinreadline · 30th January 2012, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

In the hope of exploring this thread and other unrecognised Borneo weapons. I ask just as a start. Mandau collectors please join in. I have had Mandaus with similar style engraving. Look at the midle Mandau in this link posted by Lee. We see the same form to the decorative plan. What we really need is better pictures from Richmond and more contributions.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14971

Have taken what I hope are better shots of the blade decoration in the hope that someone may be inspired with an idea.

Jim McDougall · 30th January 2012, 04:18 PM

Thanks for the excellent images of the motif Richmond!
I am inclined to agree, this motif seems very much Indonesian or as well noted, the kind of incised motif seen on mandau, which I have also seen quite similar. It seems to be of a type weapon which would be considered outside regular classification and of course modern.

katana · 30th January 2012, 05:06 PM

Hi Richmond ,
the rounded shoulders just before the tang suggests to me a re-hilt as the blade/hilt is not well matched,

Regards David

24th January 2012, 03:40 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Richmond, Can we see some clearer pictures of the blade decoration? Best Gene

24th January 2012, 03:58 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	The engraving on the blade very much reminds me of that on many older Mandau so I am going to suggest Borneo. I think there are many unrecognised blade forms from Borneo. I do not think it will be long before a Mandau with similar engraving pops up.

24th January 2012, 04:56 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Sorry Tim, but the blade engraving reminds me to dha's I have seen and I really don't think that it is an indonesian sword. My guess that it is from Kambodcha, Laos or Vietnam but this is just my guess. The blade shape isn't like a dha but look at the tip of the sheath. Regards, Detlef

27th January 2012, 06:48 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	In the hope of exploring this thread and other unrecognised Borneo weapons. I ask just as a start. Mandau collectors please join in. I have had Mandaus with similar style engraving. Look at the midle Mandau in this link posted by Lee. We see the same form to the decorative plan. What we really need is better pictures from Richmond and more contributions. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14971

30th January 2012, 04:18 PM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,194	Thanks for the excellent images of the motif Richmond! I am inclined to agree, this motif seems very much Indonesian or as well noted, the kind of incised motif seen on mandau, which I have also seen quite similar. It seems to be of a type weapon which would be considered outside regular classification and of course modern.

30th January 2012, 05:06 PM	#7
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi Richmond , the rounded shoulders just before the tang suggests to me a re-hilt as the blade/hilt is not well matched, Regards David