SUDAN ? SPEAR WITH CHAINS & COINS

Iain · 18th January 2012, 03:13 PM

Dance spear certainly makes sense to me.

The coins should be Egyptian.

http://www.anythinganywhere.com/comm...pics/egypt.htm

Of course a closeup of the coin can probably reveal the date to one of our resident Arabic readers. Of course with the caution the coins could be much older than the overall piece.

Atlantia · 18th January 2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Iain

Dance spear certainly makes sense to me.

The coins should be Egyptian.

http://www.anythinganywhere.com/comm...pics/egypt.htm

Of course a closeup of the coin can probably reveal the date to one of our resident Arabic readers. Of course with the caution the coins could be much older than the overall piece.

I agree with Iain that the coins may be older than the item itself. They appear to have the Ottoman Tugra on them.
You should be able to ID them fairly easily. They look late to me, I'd guess they are for Abdulhamid II 1842-1918.

thinreadline · 18th January 2012, 04:20 PM

Thanks all of you ... that ties in with what I had believed. Here is a clearer pic of a coin with date if someone can translate .

Atlantia · 18th January 2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thinreadline

Thanks all of you ... that ties in with what I had believed. Here is a clearer pic of a coin with date if someone can translate .

Yep, you've got 1277 Hijira which I make 1860.
If my maths is right, then Abdulhamid II didn't take the throne until 1878 so the Tugra might be Murad V?
Assuming the date is the date of minting and not a generic date?

thinreadline · 18th January 2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia

Yep, you've got 1277 Hijira which I make 1860.
If my maths is right, then Abdulhamid II didn't take the throne until 1878 so the Tugra must be Murad V?

Thats great .. thanks very much for your trouble .. I realise that does not make the item as old as that but it is good to know.

Atlantia · 18th January 2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thinreadline

Thats great .. thanks very much for your trouble .. I realise that does not make the item as old as that but it is good to know.

Welcome mate.
Just to agree with Iain again, they do look Egyptian (ottoman egyptian).
If you look on teh bay and search for:
OTTOMAN EGYPT 1277 COIN
There is a similar one.

Atlantia · 18th January 2012, 04:44 PM

LOL, looks like you found one too Iain.

Iain · 18th January 2012, 04:42 PM

Seems to conform with a 10 qirsh piece, 1861-76.

http://www.icollector.com/images/166..._0437_2_lg.jpg

EDIT: Oop I see someone got the date for you.

18th January 2012, 04:20 PM	#3
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	Thanks all of you ... that ties in with what I had believed. Here is a clearer pic of a coin with date if someone can translate . Attached Images

18th January 2012, 03:13 PM	#1
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,719	Dance spear certainly makes sense to me. The coins should be Egyptian. http://www.anythinganywhere.com/comm...pics/egypt.htm Of course a closeup of the coin can probably reveal the date to one of our resident Arabic readers. Of course with the caution the coins could be much older than the overall piece.

18th January 2012, 04:44 PM	#7
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	LOL, looks like you found one too Iain.

18th January 2012, 04:42 PM	#8
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,719	Seems to conform with a 10 qirsh piece, 1861-76. http://www.icollector.com/images/166..._0437_2_lg.jpg EDIT: Oop I see someone got the date for you.