Aura Photographic on Kris

Tim Simmons · 14th August 2005, 10:16 PM

I think you missunderstand me greatly, so keen am I to get the feel of other cultures beliefs I was happy to go with the barong vampire dance thing. I would only make light of the sort of thought that would transport old world superstion not related to any native cultures to the new world.

Tim

Mark · 15th August 2005, 02:29 AM

I think it is time to shelve the "light-hearted" exchanges about spiritualism. I don't like where this is going, frankly.

nechesh · 15th August 2005, 03:44 AM

Thanks Mark. I both respect and encourage your insistence that our discussions stay both civil and on topic. I must point out, however, that it would be virtually impossible to continue to have ethnographic discussion of the keris without at least occasionally entering into conversation on magick and mysticism and how it pertains to this weapon and it's culture. It's not so much a matter of belief. This is the culture of the keris, regardless of personal belief systems. The keris simply cannot be understood in a vacuum outside of this culture. It is so much more than just a beautiful bit of metalurgy.

John · 15th August 2005, 03:58 AM

I think the atmosphere would be more pleasant and cordial if absent from name calling and fairly frequent swollen headed "barks"...

rasdan · 15th August 2005, 04:15 AM

Mark · 15th August 2005, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nechesh

Thanks Mark. I both respect and encourage your insistence that our discussions stay both civil and on topic. I must point out, however, that it would be virtually impossible to continue to have ethnographic discussion of the keris without at least occasionally entering into conversation on magick and mysticism and how it pertains to this weapon and it's culture. It's not so much a matter of belief. This is the culture of the keris, regardless of personal belief systems. The keris simply cannot be understood in a vacuum outside of this culture. It is so much more than just a beautiful bit of metalurgy.

My last word: it was not the subject of spirituality/magic/mysticism and how it pertains to the keris and it's culture that I consider to be inappropriate, but rather the editorial comments about the validity of such beliefs (and not to put too fine a point on it, but my perception is the one that matters here, if this thread is to stay open). 'Nuff said.

nechesh · 15th August 2005, 04:20 PM

Thanks for clarifying that Mark.

purwacarita · 21st August 2005, 02:55 AM

Even a coin possess yoni power, or yoni of keris will display different pattern?

nechesh · 21st August 2005, 07:41 AM

What makes this yoni power?

15th August 2005, 02:29 AM	#2
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Time out I think it is time to shelve the "light-hearted" exchanges about spiritualism. I don't like where this is going, frankly.

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14th August 2005, 10:16 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,918	I think you missunderstand me greatly, so keen am I to get the feel of other cultures beliefs I was happy to go with the barong vampire dance thing. I would only make light of the sort of thought that would transport old world superstion not related to any native cultures to the new world. Tim

15th August 2005, 03:44 AM	#3
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Thanks Mark. I both respect and encourage your insistence that our discussions stay both civil and on topic. I must point out, however, that it would be virtually impossible to continue to have ethnographic discussion of the keris without at least occasionally entering into conversation on magick and mysticism and how it pertains to this weapon and it's culture. It's not so much a matter of belief. This is the culture of the keris, regardless of personal belief systems. The keris simply cannot be understood in a vacuum outside of this culture. It is so much more than just a beautiful bit of metalurgy.

15th August 2005, 03:58 AM	#4
John Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land below the wind Posts: 135	I think the atmosphere would be more pleasant and cordial if absent from name calling and fairly frequent swollen headed "barks"...

15th August 2005, 04:15 AM	#5
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369

15th August 2005, 04:20 PM	#7
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Thanks for clarifying that Mark.

21st August 2005, 07:41 AM	#9
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	What makes this yoni power?