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A. G. Maisey · 9th January 2012, 11:46 PM

What language does the word "chenuk" come from?

It is not Javanese, not Indonesian.

In fact the "ch" combination of letters only occurs in a few words in Bahasa Indonesia, and they are adopted words from--- I think --- mainly Japanese.

To me, this is a very, very peculiar word to be used in connection with the keris.

PenangsangII · 10th January 2012, 02:02 AM

Chenuk is a place in Pattani that was identified as one of the biggest melting points as far as keris is concerned. It was said the "kampung" was the best keris producers in 18th and 19th century.

The keris from Chenuk most often were hybrids of Pandai saras (Jawanese-Malay) and the Bugis kerises (SulSel, Sumatran even Cirebon influence)

Raja Muda · 10th January 2012, 10:32 AM

Dear Penangsang,

I think you're referring to Kampung Chenok (in Thai 'Chana') which is actually located very near Songkhla (Malay 'Singgora').

I know this place as the home of the famous Keris Coteng, but judging from the somewhat solid and muscular heft and shape of my blade, I would assume origins further South amongst the seafaring Bugis community.

Here's a closer look of the Hulu.

10th January 2012, 10:32 AM	#3
Raja Muda Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 100	Closer Look Dear Penangsang, I think you're referring to Kampung Chenok (in Thai 'Chana') which is actually located very near Songkhla (Malay 'Singgora'). I know this place as the home of the famous Keris Coteng, but judging from the somewhat solid and muscular heft and shape of my blade, I would assume origins further South amongst the seafaring Bugis community. Here's a closer look of the Hulu. Attached Images

9th January 2012, 11:46 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	What language does the word "chenuk" come from? It is not Javanese, not Indonesian. In fact the "ch" combination of letters only occurs in a few words in Bahasa Indonesia, and they are adopted words from--- I think --- mainly Japanese. To me, this is a very, very peculiar word to be used in connection with the keris.

10th January 2012, 02:02 AM	#2
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	Chenuk is a place in Pattani that was identified as one of the biggest melting points as far as keris is concerned. It was said the "kampung" was the best keris producers in 18th and 19th century. The keris from Chenuk most often were hybrids of Pandai saras (Jawanese-Malay) and the Bugis kerises (SulSel, Sumatran even Cirebon influence)