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laEspadaAncha · 9th January 2012, 12:31 AM

Hi Gene,

Looks South Indian on first glance IMO... Maybe Malabar coast?

Regards,

Chris

Gavin Nugent · 9th January 2012, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

Hi Gene,

Looks South Indian on first glance IMO... Maybe Malabar coast?

Regards,

Chris

My first thoughts looking at the Rosettes...Gav

kahnjar1 · 9th January 2012, 06:38 AM

Most interesting piece Gene. My pick would also be India and those rosettes and the blade decoration suggest some quality also. There are Indian knives which are somewhat similar but not the same. I am thinking of Moplah, Ayda-Katti etc. Perhaps those who are serious collectors of Indian blades may be able to help.
The letters in the ferrule look as if they could be someone's initials---
V W B ?? Perhaps something from the years of the Raj?
Stu

Atlantia · 9th January 2012, 09:57 PM

Chris, Gav, Stu.

Thanks chaps. Is this shape familiar to any of you? It seems strangely familiar but I can't place it.
The cutting edge at such a strange anlge makes me wonder if it's had some nefarious neck useage!

Certainly for some kind of chopping.
The characters are mystifying me as well, Like Stu I did think european initials, but the little tails made me decide not... Now I'm not sure.

Best
Gene

kahnjar1 · 9th January 2012, 11:47 PM

Those "tails" are typical of Victorian styling IMHO. As to this being a chopper....I would have thought not likely, as the downward swing would not produce a strong cut. Maybe your idea of some sort of neck rearranging tool might fit better

Stu

Atlantia · 10th January 2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Those "tails" are typical of Victorian styling IMHO. As to this being a chopper....I would have thought not likely, as the downward swing would not produce a strong cut. Maybe your idea of some sort of neck rearranging tool might fit better

Stu

Its a very odd thing mate.
But so distinctive I'd have thought someone would be able to pin it

Atlantia · 17th January 2012, 06:36 PM

Any further thoughts?

DaveA · 24th January 2012, 02:30 AM

Here is a forum thread from 2006 showing Ayda Katti. I'm not so sure.

Ayda Katti

On the other hand, here is a picture of an Ayda Katti that I've saved because it is a fine example of a weapon I've sought for a long time for my collection but alas too pricey still for me. Image credit: http://eriksedge.com/product.php?id=...=Malabar_Sword

Atlantia · 24th January 2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveA

Here is a forum thread from 2006 showing Ayda Katti. I'm not so sure.

Ayda Katti

On the other hand, here is a picture of an Ayda Katti that I've saved because it is a fine example of a weapon I've sought for a long time for my collection but alas too pricey still for me. Image credit: http://eriksedge.com/product.php?id=...=Malabar_Sword

Hi Dave,
Thanks for coming in on this one.
I think that as has been suggested we might be seeing a kind of hybrid or Anglocised version of the Ayda Katti. Which would also account for the western initials.
Seems to be an unusual thing. Strange patterns in the steels surface too. Not wootz or anything 'good' but..... I better take a pic as it's hard to describe.

Best
Gene

24th January 2012, 02:30 AM	#8
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 417	Ayda Katti Here is a forum thread from 2006 showing Ayda Katti. I'm not so sure. Ayda Katti On the other hand, here is a picture of an Ayda Katti that I've saved because it is a fine example of a weapon I've sought for a long time for my collection but alas too pricey still for me. Image credit: http://eriksedge.com/product.php?id=...=Malabar_Sword Attached Images Last edited by DaveA; 24th January 2012 at 02:35 AM. Reason: added URL to source of image

9th January 2012, 12:31 AM	#1
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Hi Gene, Looks South Indian on first glance IMO... Maybe Malabar coast? Regards, Chris

9th January 2012, 06:38 AM	#3
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,799	Most interesting piece Gene. My pick would also be India and those rosettes and the blade decoration suggest some quality also. There are Indian knives which are somewhat similar but not the same. I am thinking of Moplah, Ayda-Katti etc. Perhaps those who are serious collectors of Indian blades may be able to help. The letters in the ferrule look as if they could be someone's initials--- V W B ?? Perhaps something from the years of the Raj? Stu

9th January 2012, 09:57 PM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Chris, Gav, Stu. Thanks chaps. Is this shape familiar to any of you? It seems strangely familiar but I can't place it. The cutting edge at such a strange anlge makes me wonder if it's had some nefarious neck useage! Certainly for some kind of chopping. The characters are mystifying me as well, Like Stu I did think european initials, but the little tails made me decide not... Now I'm not sure. Best Gene

9th January 2012, 11:47 PM	#5
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,799	Those "tails" are typical of Victorian styling IMHO. As to this being a chopper....I would have thought not likely, as the downward swing would not produce a strong cut. Maybe your idea of some sort of neck rearranging tool might fit better Stu

17th January 2012, 06:36 PM	#7
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Any further thoughts?