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Old 6th January 2012, 07:54 PM   #1
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Estimado Fernando:

Debo asumir que yo también cometí errores. Muchas gracias.

Afectuosamente. Fernando K
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Old 7th January 2012, 01:42 PM   #2
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Hi Cerjak,
Il faut faire la difference
Fernando K is an expert and fernando (without K) is only a small curious collector
The Bustuindi with a rampart lion is Juan Esteban, an outstanding smith, mentioned as so by Jovellanos when he visited his home in 1791 (quote Lavin).
The other two marks (UBARRA? and GVU..S) are not listed in Lavin's book, neither within my reach.
Maybe Fernando K can trace them.
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Old 7th January 2012, 04:15 PM   #3
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Hi Cerjak,
Il faut faire la difference
Fernando K is an expert and fernando (without K) is only a small curious collector
The Bustuindi with a rampart lion is Juan Esteban, an outstanding smith, mentioned as so by Jovellanos when he visited his home in 1791 (quote Lavin).
The other two marks (UBARRA? and GVU..S) are not listed in Lavin's book, neither within my reach.
Maybe Fernando K can trace them.
Hi Fernendo,
Je vois que vous parlez le français..
I 'm wondering if those escopeta are hard to find in the collector market ,do you have any idea about their value ,I don't want to sell those guns but it is always good to know.
I'm sorry for my poor English but it is the best I can.

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Old 8th January 2012, 02:02 PM   #4
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Hi Fernendo,
Je vois que vous parlez le français..
Un petit peu

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...I 'm wondering if those escopeta are hard to find in the collector market ...
... Comme ci comme ça ... so so. You do find them, if you look for them.

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... do you have any idea about their value ,I don't want to sell those guns but it is always good to know...
Sorry, no price evaluations are allowed in this discussion forum.

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... I'm sorry for my poor English but it is the best I can.
Don't worry, is well good enough.
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Old 9th January 2012, 01:22 PM   #5
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Hola
A pesar de las palabras de Fernando, no soy un experto. Solo soy un modesto coleccionista y un amante de la historia de las armas.
En cuanto a la marca, dice Y B A R R A. Respecto a la tercera marca, no la puedo descifrar.
Te sugiero dirigirte a Juan L. Calvó, que vive en España, y es autor de varios libros y artículos sobre el tema, y que tiene una página:

www.catalogaciondearmas.com

Desde Argentina, afectuosamente. Fernando

Hello
Despite the words of Fernando, I'm not an expert. I'm just a humble collector and a lover of the history of arms.
As for the brand, says Y B A R R A. Regarding the third mark, I can not decipher.
I suggest you go to John L. Calvo, who lives in Spain, and is the author of several books and articles on the subject, and has a page:

www.catalogaciondearmas.com

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Old 9th January 2012, 11:14 PM   #6
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Hola:

Ramiro Larrañaga (opus citatus), pagina 218/19:

Ibarra (Ybarra), andrés de. Chispero (lockmaker). Eibar. 1762
Francisco de. Maestro examinador de Placencia hasta 1850
Francisco de. Chispero (lockmaker). Placencia.1820
José de. Eibar.1821 Pistolas de chispa.
Miguel Antonio de.1795

Afectuosamente. Fernando

Hi

Ramiro Larrañaga (opus citatus), page 218/19:

Ibarra (Ybarra), Andres. Chispero (lockmaker). Eibar. 1762
Francisco de. Master Placencia examiner until 1850
Francisco de. Chispero (lockmaker). Placencia.1820
José de. Guns Eibar.1821 spark.
Miguel Antonio de.1795

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Old 10th January 2012, 05:59 PM   #7
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Fernando&Fernando K

again thank you ! It is nice I was making many reseachs without any result and now I have many informations.
I decide to clean those escopeta 2 weeks ago and when I was cleaning the barrel the name of AGUSTO Bust ??? R?? appears and after searching in google in found one thread from vikings sword relating one miquelet pistol who had help me to find the full inscription "Agustin Bustindui Ruiz" so after with your help I had the full identification for those "escopeta" ( I was even not knowing the name)
It is funny now if you search inggoogle picture after BUSTINDUI ESCOPETA you will find some pics about my gun but it will be hepfull for the next people who will need to identify similar gun and this it is because of your extensive knowledge.
I have 2 other miquelet guns one with a lock with baccari sign and an other I think from sardenia I will be verry happy if you could help me again.
Now I just have to find the last mark in the second escopeta but difficult to read(lock GVU??S)
Muchas gracias.
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