Khanda Questions

Dom · 6th January 2012, 02:42 PM

Hi Steve
attempted translation from the Arabic language, has failed

this may be Urdu, and other Indian languages

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Dom

ariel · 6th January 2012, 04:04 PM

The fuller runs into the tip: thus, the blade was shortened. I also seem to see the downward sloping of the distal part of the blade. If so, and if we put these two together, I would guess it is a reshaped Sosun Patta of Indian form.
I have a similar one which is a carbon copy of the one in Leeds Royal Armoury. There it is defined as a 17th cen. Solingen blade specifically produced for export. Mine even has european markings. The "islamic" markings on the presented one might be a later addition.

Jens Nordlunde · 6th January 2012, 06:19 PM

The blade seems to have been shortened by 20 to 30 cm, or maybe a bit less.

When did you last see a Sosun Patta with a fuller, or a Kirach for that matter?

I am not quite sure what I think of the blade, but it is, most certainly quite different form the blades we mostly see – and I have some difficulties to see where the European blade form comes in.

ariel · 6th January 2012, 07:26 PM

Your wish is my command:-)

Here are quick pic of my Sosun Patta.
The pics of the one in Leeds are somewhere in my archives but they are horribly messed up. If any of the Forumites has a chance of visiting LRA, I would be most grateful for photographing it.

Tim Simmons · 6th January 2012, 07:50 PM

Not my area but from a craftsmans view there appears to be rather a gauche match of blade to handle?

ariel · 6th January 2012, 07:55 PM

Which one do you refer to?

Tim Simmons · 6th January 2012, 07:57 PM

Certainly not yours, rather nice.

6th January 2012, 02:42 PM	#1
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Hi Steve attempted translation from the Arabic language, has failed this may be Urdu, and other Indian languages à + Dom Attached Images

6th January 2012, 07:26 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Your wish is my command:-) Here are quick pic of my Sosun Patta. The pics of the one in Leeds are somewhere in my archives but they are horribly messed up. If any of the Forumites has a chance of visiting LRA, I would be most grateful for photographing it. Attached Images

6th January 2012, 04:04 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	The fuller runs into the tip: thus, the blade was shortened. I also seem to see the downward sloping of the distal part of the blade. If so, and if we put these two together, I would guess it is a reshaped Sosun Patta of Indian form. I have a similar one which is a carbon copy of the one in Leeds Royal Armoury. There it is defined as a 17th cen. Solingen blade specifically produced for export. Mine even has european markings. The "islamic" markings on the presented one might be a later addition.

6th January 2012, 06:19 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	The blade seems to have been shortened by 20 to 30 cm, or maybe a bit less. When did you last see a Sosun Patta with a fuller, or a Kirach for that matter? I am not quite sure what I think of the blade, but it is, most certainly quite different form the blades we mostly see – and I have some difficulties to see where the European blade form comes in.

6th January 2012, 07:50 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	Not my area but from a craftsmans view there appears to be rather a gauche match of blade to handle?

6th January 2012, 07:55 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Which one do you refer to?

6th January 2012, 07:57 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	Certainly not yours, rather nice.