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Old 30th December 2011, 11:53 AM   #1
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Ante todo, aclarar que mi intención no es iniciar una polémica con las ideas vertidas en los post anteriores, sino establecer el funcionamiento de la llave de rueda (wheellock)....
Primero: La palanca de impulsar (button press) existe no solo en los ejemplares en la armeria de Graz, sino también en numerosos ejemplares de "tschinke". Justamente, en el thread reciente en este foro, se han adjuntado imágenes de "tschinke" que lo poseen.
Segundo: El ejemplar elegido por JOHNHB para su interrogatorio, RG3 del trabajo de Brooker citado, no muestra ningún resorte actuando sobre el primer fiador (primary sear)
Tercero: Para que el resorte del primer fiador (primary sear) como aparece en el diseño adjuntado por Matchlock agregue mas fuerza al contacto entre los dos fiadores (sear), el resorte tendría que actuar acercando al extremo del primer fiador (primary sear) a la cara interna de la platina(plate) y no alejándolo, como aparece representado

Afectuosamente. Fernando KHello.
First, to clarify that my intention is not to start a debate with the ideas expressed in previous posts, but to establish the operation of the lug wrench (wheellock )....
First, the drive lever (button press) exists not only in the specimens in the armory in Graz, but numerous copies of "tschinke." Precisely, in the recent thread on this forum, images have been attached "tschinke" who possess it.
Second, the example chosen by JOHNHB for questioning RG3 Brooker's work cited shows no spring acting on the first latch (primary sear)
Third: For the first detent spring (primary sear) as shown in the attached design by Matchlock add more force to the contact between the two guarantors (SEAR), the spring would have to move closer to the end of the first latch (primary sear) to the inside of the plate (plate) and away, as represented

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Old 1st January 2012, 06:58 PM   #2
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Thank you to Fernando K, Fernando and Matchlock for your replies.

Here is a later (about 1580?) wheellock which has the sear engagement button, missing its head. The button is pushed out by a spring so it disengages the sear from the wheel. This requires that the button be pushed with one hand as the wheel is wound with the other. Must have been inconvenient on horseback!

The numbers on the bottom edge seem odd - perhaps they date from when it was made?

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Old 2nd January 2012, 03:24 PM   #3
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Hi Johnhb,

This lock is almost certainly of Augsburg manufacture, ca. 1590-1600.

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Old 3rd January 2012, 12:35 PM   #4
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Hola, Johnhb:

Para terminar, permitame expresar lo que un principio de honestidad intelectual y de respeto a todos los miembros de este foro me obliga a exponer:
El primer fiador (primary sear) no precisa ningún resorte para moverse: cuando él orificio de la rueda ha llegado a su lugar, la presión que se ha ejercido sobre el botón hace que el extremos del primer fiador (primary sear) se le introduzca, leevantando el otro extremo y permitiendo que el segundo fiador (second sear) se le meta debajo y bloquee todo el mecanismo.
Es seguramente, lo que pasa en el ejemplar de su post Nº 7, pese a sus palabras, y lo que claramente se vé en el RG3 del trabajo de Booker.

Afectuosamente. Fernando K

Hello, Johnhb:

In closing, let me say what a principle of intellectual honesty and respect for all members of this forum compels me to state:
The first latch (primary sear) requires no spring to move: when the opening of the conference is over, the pressure has been exerted on the button causes the ends of the first latch (primary sear) was introduced, leevantando the other end and allowing the second latch (second sear) is below target and block the entire mechanism.
It is surely what happens in the copy of his post No. 7, despite his words, and what clearly is seen in the work of Booker RG3.

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Old 3rd January 2012, 07:04 PM   #5
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Hi Johnhb,

For better understanding I inverted your first image of the Augsburg wheel-lock to show its actual view.

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Old 4th January 2012, 12:51 PM   #6
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Hola a todos:

Si se invierte la fotografía, la cifra 1588 queda invertida: me parece que era una llave (lock) para la izquierda....Además, me parece que arriba de la cifra 1588 hay una inscripción, que no puedo descifrar.....

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Hello all,

Reversing the picture, the 1588 figure is reversed: I think it was a key (lock) to the left .... I also think that above the 1588 figure is an inscription that I can not figure out .... .

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Old 4th January 2012, 01:47 PM   #7
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Hi Fernando K.,

Thank you for remarking that. So it is left-hand lock which is very unusual, and I should not have inverted the image.

The number 1588 and the other cyphers are certainly old inventory nos.

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