Would appreciate your opinion

pebuxy · 28th December 2011, 03:59 PM

Thx for the warm welcome gents ! True Chris, I m hooked.... Tell me Vandoo, that idea of yours it being a drum stick seems quite plausible.... Any idea where the similar ones you saw came from? And they are as you say not new guinea, but very probably african. I d luv to find out more about their origin. The knoberrie next to the Masai club is I beleive Nguni, but would be very happy to get an "expert" opinion on that

as to the headhunters axe, it has all the features of an old piece, forged steel blade, with a variable thickness - the tourist ones all seem to be made out of steel sheet, being of a uniform thickness- and it has a good weight, 550 grams, tourist ones tend to be lighter, generaly around 300-350 grams. Again, would very much appreciate someone with knowledge giving his or her opinion. Thx in advance !

VANDOO · 29th December 2011, 04:29 AM

I HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO SEE WHERE I SAW A DRUMSTICK SIMULAR IN FORM AND FUNCTION. SO FAR NO LUCK AND I HAVE SO MUCH STUFF IN MY OLD BRAIN SORTING THRU IT AND THE PICTURE INDEX IS A CHORE AND SO FAR HAS NOT PRODUCED THE INFO. IT SEEMS IT MAY HAVE BEEN IN A ETHINOGRAPHIC TYPE FILM IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE FROM AFRICA TO TIBET I SEEM TO REMBER IT BEING A HAND HELD DRUM.

ALL THE PICTURES OF TRIBES IN NEW GUINEA SHOWED THEM USING THEIR HANDS ON THE DRUMS CARRIED IN CELEBRATIONS AND CEREMONYS.
WITH YOUR SORT OF STICK THE DRUM IS STRUCK WITH THE END OF THE STICK OR IN YOURS THE TOE OF THE SOCK. THE 90 DEGREE BEND ALLOWS THIS, ITS KIND OF LIKE USING A PICK OR ADZ AND LIKELY MAKES A UNIQUE SOUND. UNLIKE REGULAR DRUMSTICKS AS THEY STRIKE IN A DIFFERENT FASHON. IT MAY NOT BE A DRUMSTICK AT ALL BUT ITS MY BEST GUESS, IT CERTIANLY ISN'T A SOCK STRECHER

PERHAPS THERE IS A DRUM FORUM WHERE YOU COULD INQUIRE. GOOD LUCK

pebuxy · 29th December 2011, 07:08 PM

Hi again Vandoo, a tribal sock stretcher...unique piece...lol. Thx for the reply and making your old brain work for me.

Rick · 29th December 2011, 09:31 PM

Canadian Indian, Barry ?
Eskimo, Inuit perhaps ?

pebuxy · 30th December 2011, 12:22 AM

Hi Rick, I ll post a better pic tomorrow, so you all can get a " feel " of the wood, grain...thx for any suggestion !

VANDOO · 30th December 2011, 04:52 AM

FOUND A MODERN EXAMPLE OF A DRUM WITH A STICK OF THE SIMULAR SHAPE. REFERRED TO AS A TALKING DRUM, FOUND IN WEST AFRICA AND SURROUNDING AREAS WHERE ITS USE LIKELY SPREAD.
SIMULAR SHAPED DRUM STICKS MAY BE USED ELSEWHERE AND PERHAPS A SIMULAR FORM OF STICK MAY INDEED BE USED ON INUIT AND OTHER TRIBES AND PERHAPS EVEN IN TIBET??
ANYWAY THEY HAVE A HAND HELD DRUM IN AFRICA USING THIS STICK FORM.

pebuxy · 30th December 2011, 07:48 PM

Plausible again Vandoo, I ve been browsing the internet and the shape does seem to coincide with the drumsticks used on talking drums; The head itself might be a bit big altough, that is, when compared to most african talking drum drumsticks I ve found..But again, it sure is a possibility. I ve adeed some more pics to give an idea of the grain of the wood. The wood itself has kinda dark and light stripes in the grain, generaly lenghtwise. The dark lines tending to be redish-brown. I ve added some pics of the club with the "beak" like shaped head as well, as the first pic I posted didn t show the special features, being the flat surfaces on the side, and the ridge running from the back and over the top.

28th December 2011, 03:59 PM	#1
pebuxy Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 13	Thx Thx for the warm welcome gents ! True Chris, I m hooked.... Tell me Vandoo, that idea of yours it being a drum stick seems quite plausible.... Any idea where the similar ones you saw came from? And they are as you say not new guinea, but very probably african. I d luv to find out more about their origin. The knoberrie next to the Masai club is I beleive Nguni, but would be very happy to get an "expert" opinion on that as to the headhunters axe, it has all the features of an old piece, forged steel blade, with a variable thickness - the tourist ones all seem to be made out of steel sheet, being of a uniform thickness- and it has a good weight, 550 grams, tourist ones tend to be lighter, generaly around 300-350 grams. Again, would very much appreciate someone with knowledge giving his or her opinion. Thx in advance !

29th December 2011, 07:08 PM	#3
pebuxy Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 13	Sock stretcher Hi again Vandoo, a tribal sock stretcher...unique piece...lol. Thx for the reply and making your old brain work for me.

29th December 2011, 09:31 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Drumstick Canadian Indian, Barry ? Eskimo, Inuit perhaps ?

30th December 2011, 12:22 AM	#5
pebuxy Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 13	Pic Hi Rick, I ll post a better pic tomorrow, so you all can get a " feel " of the wood, grain...thx for any suggestion !

30th December 2011, 04:52 AM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	FOUND A MODERN EXAMPLE OF A DRUM WITH A STICK OF THE SIMULAR SHAPE. REFERRED TO AS A TALKING DRUM, FOUND IN WEST AFRICA AND SURROUNDING AREAS WHERE ITS USE LIKELY SPREAD. SIMULAR SHAPED DRUM STICKS MAY BE USED ELSEWHERE AND PERHAPS A SIMULAR FORM OF STICK MAY INDEED BE USED ON INUIT AND OTHER TRIBES AND PERHAPS EVEN IN TIBET?? ANYWAY THEY HAVE A HAND HELD DRUM IN AFRICA USING THIS STICK FORM. Attached Images

29th December 2011, 04:29 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO SEE WHERE I SAW A DRUMSTICK SIMULAR IN FORM AND FUNCTION. SO FAR NO LUCK AND I HAVE SO MUCH STUFF IN MY OLD BRAIN SORTING THRU IT AND THE PICTURE INDEX IS A CHORE AND SO FAR HAS NOT PRODUCED THE INFO. IT SEEMS IT MAY HAVE BEEN IN A ETHINOGRAPHIC TYPE FILM IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE FROM AFRICA TO TIBET I SEEM TO REMBER IT BEING A HAND HELD DRUM. ALL THE PICTURES OF TRIBES IN NEW GUINEA SHOWED THEM USING THEIR HANDS ON THE DRUMS CARRIED IN CELEBRATIONS AND CEREMONYS. WITH YOUR SORT OF STICK THE DRUM IS STRUCK WITH THE END OF THE STICK OR IN YOURS THE TOE OF THE SOCK. THE 90 DEGREE BEND ALLOWS THIS, ITS KIND OF LIKE USING A PICK OR ADZ AND LIKELY MAKES A UNIQUE SOUND. UNLIKE REGULAR DRUMSTICKS AS THEY STRIKE IN A DIFFERENT FASHON. IT MAY NOT BE A DRUMSTICK AT ALL BUT ITS MY BEST GUESS, IT CERTIANLY ISN'T A SOCK STRECHER PERHAPS THERE IS A DRUM FORUM WHERE YOU COULD INQUIRE. GOOD LUCK

30th December 2011, 07:48 PM	#7
pebuxy Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 13	talking drum Plausible again Vandoo, I ve been browsing the internet and the shape does seem to coincide with the drumsticks used on talking drums; The head itself might be a bit big altough, that is, when compared to most african talking drum drumsticks I ve found..But again, it sure is a possibility. I ve adeed some more pics to give an idea of the grain of the wood. The wood itself has kinda dark and light stripes in the grain, generaly lenghtwise. The dark lines tending to be redish-brown. I ve added some pics of the club with the "beak" like shaped head as well, as the first pic I posted didn t show the special features, being the flat surfaces on the side, and the ridge running from the back and over the top. Attached Images