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Old 4th December 2011, 03:32 AM   #1
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A DIFFICULT SUBJECT AND FEW REFRENCES AVAILABLE. I HAD MENTIONED THE BRIGHT YELLOW FIBER BEING FROM A TYPE OR ORCHID FIBER USED TO WRAP THE POINTS AND WOULD SOFTEN AND FALL APART IN THE WARM BLOOD ESPECIALLY IF THE VICTUM MOVES MUCH. THIS WOULD REMAIN IN THE WOUND WHEN THE ARROW WAS REMOVED CAUSING INFECTION. ITS POSSIBLE IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOAKED IN SOMETHING NASTY OR POSIONOUS BUT I HAVEN'T READ IT STATED AS FACT. ONE TYPE OF PALM WOOD USED FOR POINTS SEPARATES INTO SLIVERS IN THE WOUND DUE TO THE WARM BLOOD ALSO LEAVING MATERIAL DIFFICULT TO REMOVE.SOMETIMES ANIMAL SKIN OR TISSUE IS USED TO BIND ON POINTS OR BARBS BUT IT IS USUALLY PLANT FIBER AND RESINS.
VARIOUS THINGS USED FOR BARBS FROM THORNS TO FISH BONES AND SPINES TO HUMAN BONE SLIVERS TO CRITTER TEETH FISH, SNAKE, ECT. HERE ARE A FEW PICTURES.
1 PICTURE SEVERAL ARROWS THE ONE TO THE FAR LEFT THE MOST SIMULAR TO YOUR EXAMPLE, BARBS APPEAR MISSING AND CARVED SHAFT, INFO WAS NEW GUINEA ARROWS. NOT MUCH HELP.
2. FLY RIVER AREA NEW GUINEA 1920'S ARROWS. ONE EXAMPLE WITH SINGLE BONE BARB.
3. NEDO IS. SANTA CRUZ IS. LOOKS LIKE A RABBIT
4. FEATHER MONEY TRIBAL FORTUNE SANTA CRUZ IS. 1930

I HAVE SOME PICTURES FROM BOGANVILLE ISLAND WITH MULTIPLE BARBS BUT THEY ARE TOO LARGE TO POST HERE. I SEE I CAN'T SEND YOU AN EMAIL VIA THE FORUM BUT SEND ME AN EMAIL VIA MY FORUM INFO AND I WILL TRY AND SEND THEM TO YOU IN A EMAIL.
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Old 5th December 2011, 11:32 PM   #2
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Vandoo, it looks like I can't email you via the forum as I'm new and don't have sufficient user priviledges yet But thanks for the photos and information regarding the use of friable plant materials on arrowheads. Do you have references for this? Please let me know if you do, it may go some way towards explaining the conspicuous moss-like fibres...
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Old 7th December 2011, 03:47 PM   #3
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Old 24th January 2012, 04:51 AM   #4
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A FEW MORE PICTURES OF SANTA CRUZ IS. BOW AND ARROWS AND LOCAL VILLAGERS.
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Old 26th January 2012, 01:23 AM   #5
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Maria, I recall the article you're looking for "Arrows of Melanesia" by David Skinner, and actually am surprised, it doesn;t seem that long ago
I recall it was an incredible article, virtually a book within a magnificently published magazine, I used to subscribe to it it seems lifetimes ago.
Online you can find "Tribal Arts" magazine and you can order back issues, I checked and it is available, Summer 2000, #23 @25.00 and apparantly in stock.
Out of all the issues I had, that one impressed me the most for the incredible detail and volume, and I honestly never realized arrows were this long!

I would gladly help with my copy but as I am on the road wont be able to access for some time. Hope this info will help.

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Old 6th December 2011, 01:40 PM   #7
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A DIFFICULT SUBJECT AND FEW REFRENCES AVAILABLE. I HAD MENTIONED THE BRIGHT YELLOW FIBER BEING FROM A TYPE OR ORCHID FIBER USED TO WRAP THE POINTS AND WOULD SOFTEN AND FALL APART IN THE WARM BLOOD ESPECIALLY IF THE VICTUM MOVES MUCH. THIS WOULD REMAIN IN THE WOUND WHEN THE ARROW WAS REMOVED CAUSING INFECTION. ITS POSSIBLE IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOAKED IN SOMETHING NASTY OR POSIONOUS BUT I HAVEN'T READ IT STATED AS FACT. ONE TYPE OF PALM WOOD USED FOR POINTS SEPARATES INTO SLIVERS IN THE WOUND DUE TO THE WARM BLOOD ALSO LEAVING MATERIAL DIFFICULT TO REMOVE.SOMETIMES ANIMAL SKIN OR TISSUE IS USED TO BIND ON POINTS OR BARBS BUT IT IS USUALLY PLANT FIBER AND RESINS.
VARIOUS THINGS USED FOR BARBS FROM THORNS TO FISH BONES AND SPINES TO HUMAN BONE SLIVERS TO CRITTER TEETH FISH, SNAKE, ECT. HERE ARE A FEW PICTURES.
1 PICTURE SEVERAL ARROWS THE ONE TO THE FAR LEFT THE MOST SIMULAR TO YOUR EXAMPLE, BARBS APPEAR MISSING AND CARVED SHAFT, INFO WAS NEW GUINEA ARROWS. NOT MUCH HELP.
2. FLY RIVER AREA NEW GUINEA 1920'S ARROWS. ONE EXAMPLE WITH SINGLE BONE BARB.
3. NEDO IS. SANTA CRUZ IS. LOOKS LIKE A RABBIT
4. FEATHER MONEY TRIBAL FORTUNE SANTA CRUZ IS. 1930

I HAVE SOME PICTURES FROM BOGANVILLE ISLAND WITH MULTIPLE BARBS BUT THEY ARE TOO LARGE TO POST HERE. I SEE I CAN'T SEND YOU AN EMAIL VIA THE FORUM BUT SEND ME AN EMAIL VIA MY FORUM INFO AND I WILL TRY AND SEND THEM TO YOU IN A EMAIL.

Salaams Maria and VANDOO et al ~ Rumaging through my library I dug up a book in German called Mythos und Kunst based on the Papua New Guinea region full of pictures of artefacts like arrows and spears etc If needed I can shoot some pictures. Regards Ibrahiim
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Old 7th December 2011, 12:30 PM   #8
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Hi Ibrahiim,

Yes, it would be great to see the pictures from your book, especially if there's anything resembling the arrow I'm working on. Unfortunately I don't speak German, so if there's any information in the book that you think is relevant, could you possibly summarise for me? Your help is much appreciated

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