Old Balinese Cock Fighting Knives For Comment

fearn · 7th August 2005, 12:52 AM

You're quite right, Tim. That's precisely why I'm pro-hunting.

Admittedly, I'm not fond of some forms of hunting (especially trophy hunting, or those that risk the dogs more than they risk the hunter). And I don't consider drunken idiots with guns to be hunters, no matter where they are in the woods. All this just to keep my street cred with my liberal friends

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Fearn

Tim Simmons · 7th August 2005, 12:56 AM

Yes real hunting is skill and respect. Tim

Andrew · 7th August 2005, 01:34 AM

Great discussion, guys.

Just an observation: this, like bullfighting, is a topic that can quickly become contentious and bitter. Let's please continue to keep this thread civil. Thanks.

ariel · 7th August 2005, 02:16 AM

Andrew, I hear you.
Nevertheless, with all due respect to our Iberian colleagues, bullfighting is an exact equivalent of cock fighting and dog fighting only a less fair one: at least the former is a "dog against a dog". Pitting a man against a bull ? The fairness of it can be measured in the proportion of dead bulls vs. dead matadors: the creature's chance would be better if it had metastatic cancer. I've absolutely refused to accept an invitation to a bull fight when I was in Spain. Call it squeamishness, but I just cannot stand the idea.
In Portugal, interestingly, they have bullfights without killing the bull. That is truly sporting: only the willing human takes a chance, but the bull is safe.
I am not a vocal opponent of any animal fights, fox hunting or just hunting; having done my share of hunting in the distant past, I have decided that if I wanted a steak, I could get it in the supermarket instead of being a volunteer butcher. And if I am not going to eat the creature, I have no business killing it.

fearn · 7th August 2005, 04:21 AM

You're certainly right Andrew.

Perhaps we should add cricket fighting to the list.

I don't think that anyone here objects to insects chewing each other up....?

Getting back to the subject at hand, those are interesting cockfighting knives. I, for one, am surprised that they have smooth tangs. In my ignorance, I would have thought that they would be bent or something so that they could be fastened more securely.

Fearn

zamboanga · 7th August 2005, 09:05 AM

Here's one from the local news: http://www.zamboanga.com/news/Z-NEWS...lls_cocker.htm

Cockfighting is the national past time in the Philippines. When the word "cockpit" is mentioned it has nothing to do with a jet airplane. And which Philippine city has the most number of cockpits? Zamboanga!

Some cockfighting facts:

The fighting-cock almost became the American national emblem. It lost by one vote to the American eagle.

Some famous cockfighting afficionados: Julius Caesar, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln (was a cockfighting referee).

Tim Simmons · 7th August 2005, 10:02 AM

Does anyone have pictures of an armed bird? To me it looks as if a blade is lashed to each talon? Slashed to death at the balls

Tim

7th August 2005, 09:05 AM	#6
zamboanga Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: zamboanga city, philippines Posts: 132	Those blades can kill! Here's one from the local news: http://www.zamboanga.com/news/Z-NEWS...lls_cocker.htm Cockfighting is the national past time in the Philippines. When the word "cockpit" is mentioned it has nothing to do with a jet airplane. And which Philippine city has the most number of cockpits? Zamboanga! Some cockfighting facts: The fighting-cock almost became the American national emblem. It lost by one vote to the American eagle. Some famous cockfighting afficionados: Julius Caesar, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln (was a cockfighting referee). Attached Images

7th August 2005, 12:52 AM	#1
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	You're quite right, Tim. That's precisely why I'm pro-hunting. Admittedly, I'm not fond of some forms of hunting (especially trophy hunting, or those that risk the dogs more than they risk the hunter). And I don't consider drunken idiots with guns to be hunters, no matter where they are in the woods. All this just to keep my street cred with my liberal friends . Fearn

7th August 2005, 12:56 AM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Yes real hunting is skill and respect. Tim

7th August 2005, 01:34 AM	#3
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Great discussion, guys. Just an observation: this, like bullfighting, is a topic that can quickly become contentious and bitter. Let's please continue to keep this thread civil. Thanks.

7th August 2005, 02:16 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Andrew, I hear you. Nevertheless, with all due respect to our Iberian colleagues, bullfighting is an exact equivalent of cock fighting and dog fighting only a less fair one: at least the former is a "dog against a dog". Pitting a man against a bull ? The fairness of it can be measured in the proportion of dead bulls vs. dead matadors: the creature's chance would be better if it had metastatic cancer. I've absolutely refused to accept an invitation to a bull fight when I was in Spain. Call it squeamishness, but I just cannot stand the idea. In Portugal, interestingly, they have bullfights without killing the bull. That is truly sporting: only the willing human takes a chance, but the bull is safe. I am not a vocal opponent of any animal fights, fox hunting or just hunting; having done my share of hunting in the distant past, I have decided that if I wanted a steak, I could get it in the supermarket instead of being a volunteer butcher. And if I am not going to eat the creature, I have no business killing it.

7th August 2005, 04:21 AM	#5
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	You're certainly right Andrew. Perhaps we should add cricket fighting to the list. I don't think that anyone here objects to insects chewing each other up....? Getting back to the subject at hand, those are interesting cockfighting knives. I, for one, am surprised that they have smooth tangs. In my ignorance, I would have thought that they would be bent or something so that they could be fastened more securely. Fearn

7th August 2005, 10:02 AM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Does anyone have pictures of an armed bird? To me it looks as if a blade is lashed to each talon? Slashed to death at the balls Tim