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Old 21st November 2011, 10:30 PM   #1
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Old 22nd November 2011, 12:24 PM   #2
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Now let's get real and solve this. No where on this blad it says Allah(الله), the only part that is inteligible is Mohammad (محمد ). Top line we have لم لا that with Mohammad after it does not really make much sense, but could be له لا. Right up untill the Brits took over India, India was ruled by mostly Muslim rulers, the Mughuls, the Persian Afshars and the Afghans, and Farsi/Dari was the language of the courts. So there is good chance of finding Arabic script on Indian blades. The chances of the blacksmith being illeterate or not knowing enough about proper writing is very high. If i'm to take a guess, the text closely resembles someone trying to write,
لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله .
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Old 22nd November 2011, 01:31 PM   #3
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...what does that last line mean?

It is a very light and flexible blade, and, I agree, probably European - most interesting for me is the fact that the mark is made with a stamp - that is, a die made to quickly produce an identical mark on a number of blades. It is placed for visibility (in contrast, Solingen-produced kaskara blades are often marked just above or on the tang). One characteristic of stamps is their tendency towards illegibility, and this might be the case here.

Also of note is the koftgari hilt (it was previously mounted with another hilt with a blade support which we are used to seeing in firanghis). The inlay has worn away in such a way as to show that the index finger was hooked over the guard.

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Old 22nd November 2011, 01:45 PM   #4
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...what does that last line mean?.
it's the "Shahada"
لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله (lā ʾilāha ʾillallāh, Muḥammad rasūlu-llāh) (in Arabic)
There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God. (in English)
declaration of Islamic faith

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Old 22nd November 2011, 02:01 PM   #5
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... thanks Dom
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Old 22nd November 2011, 04:34 PM   #6
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Do these marks look akin to the blade above?
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Old 22nd November 2011, 04:42 PM   #7
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Tell me more! Let's see the whole blade...
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Old 22nd November 2011, 07:21 PM   #8
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Also of note is the koftgari hilt (it was previously mounted with another hilt with a blade support which we are used to seeing in firanghis). The inlay has worn away in such a way as to show that the index finger was hooked over the guard.
Can we get a close up of the hilt? I would love to see a pattern of coftgari wear indicating the finger over guard hold that you are referring to. Thanks in advance.
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