french musket lock

[fernando]

Hi Michl,

Apparently the cent suisses also served in France.

From the link you quote:

"Two of the eight infantry regiments included in the Garde Royale from 1815 to 1830 were Swiss and can be regarded as successors of the old Gardes suisses."

From this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard

"Le corps est supprimé en 1792 par l'Assemblée nationale, rétabli en 1814 par Louis XVIII et subsiste jusqu'en 1830."


I would swear those inspection marks on the trigger guard (and not only) are French poinçons.
Also the gold inscription says Cent Suisses du Roy

[terry1956]

thanks chaps, my understanding is that this is a french musket made in versailles for the swiss cent guard, a 100 man unit armed with muskets and forming part of the maison du roi. louis xv11 had this unit reformed on is return to power in 1814 and these man went with him on the return of napoleon for the 100 days that he was again in power. the guard returned later for a time on napoleons fall but was later disbanded.
I can,t get anymore information on this weapon or the cent guards uniforms of the time etc. and yes its a very nice weapon with the blue and gold barrel. and it will just have a coat of renaissance wax durring the time its in my care, michael

[Matchlock]

[QUOTE=fernando]Hi Michl,

Apparently the cent suisses also served in France.


Hi 'Nando,

Of course I never meant to deny that. Relying on the source I quoted, I just intended to focus on the Papal Guard.

Best,
Michl

[Fernando K]

Hola a todos

Confieso que me apresuré. Hay llaves (lock) producidas a partir de 1814 que tienen la expresión "Royale", pero la cazoleta (pan) sin guarda-fuego e inclinada. Entonces, la fecha de la llave es a lo sumo de 1814 o posterior.
En cuanto al post (tread) inicial deTerry, es un poco tramposo, porque nos ha presentado la llave sin decirnos que pertenece a un mosquete (fusil) de guardias suizos del Rey.
Los "Cent Suisses" formaban las 4 compañias, conjuntamente con los "Marchaux-des-Logis", en la "Maison du Roi"
Hi all

I confess that I hastened. There are keys (lock) produced from 1814 that have the word "Royale", but the bowl (pan) without guard-fire and inclined. So the key date is at most of 1814 or later.
As for the post (tread) initial deTerry is a bit tricky, because we have been presented without saying that the key belongs to a musket (gun) of Swiss Guards of the King.
The "Cent Suisses" were the four companies, together with "Logis des Marchaux" at the "Maison du Roi"
Affectionately. Fernando KAfectuosamente. Fernando K

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Fernando K

... En cuanto al post (tread) inicial deTerry, es un poco tramposo, porque nos ha presentado la llave sin decirnos que pertenece a un mosquete (fusil) de guardias suizos del Rey....

... As for the post (tread) initial deTerry is a bit tricky, because we have been presented without saying that the key belongs to a musket (gun) of Swiss Guards of the King....

You are right, Fernando; i also noticed that, with surprise

Originally Posted by terry1956

... Can anyone please let me know what this lock is off, age etc. ...

... As if Michael only had the lock.
Surely he has an explanation for that ... right, Michael ?

[terry1956]

hi chaps, did not wish to mislead in any way, just wanted to know what date you placed on the lock without knowing anymore about the weapon, it would of just been so easy to say well its so and so on seeing the whole musket. as you now know its a 1814 date french Charleville musket for the swiss cent guard of louis XV111. the guard was made up of 100 men armed with these very nice looking muskets each made to the highest standard of the day. On the return of napoleon the cent guard went with him. they did not reform after the 100 days. michael