Two small Coteng - keris selit or are they older?

[Sajen]

Thank you Kai Wee for your informed help!
I have get with the sheath a second one from the same wood (I think) but with a old repair but the batang is still ok. I am unsure if I shall cut the broken one and should replace it with the good one, the cut don't will be visible by the silver sleeve. What do you think?

Regards,

Detlef

[PenangsangII]

the term ''keris selit'' is relatively new as traditionally, the smaller keris tucked in the waist band is called ''keris pandak'' in reference to short keris. Keris pandak normally holds a higher status as most probably its the type of pusaka / heirloom, whilst the longer keris could be the fighting /battle keris, which normally hand held.

WRT question on how these ppl battled out the Siamese, normally the Pattani fighters those days were also armed with klewang or parang. Though they are shorter, i did not doubt they can stand against the longer dha or a katana for that matter. These ppl have developed fighting style to suit their need, and the weapon culture was also developed for the continuous warfare with the Siamese.

[BluErf]

Hi Detlef,

The other sheath has a broken daunan, but the batang is one piece with the cross-piece. It is quite a waste to cut the batang to fit the first sheath.

If you don't have a keris blade and coteng hilt to fit the first sheath, why not just leave them be for the time being. If you do get a keris blade and coteng hilt in the future, you could send it to Malaysia to be fitted, and at the same time, get a batang and metal works done.

[VVV]

Thanks PenangsangII for the explanations.
I hope to visit this area one day to find out more about this.

Michael

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by VVV

Thanks PenangsangII for the explanations.
I hope to visit this area one day to find out more about this.

Michael

Hello Michael,

can you tell me if the hilts of your examples are smaller as normal.

Thank you,

Detlef

[VVV]

Detlef,

Yes the hilts are also proportionally smaller than regular sized coteng.

Michael

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by VVV

Detlef,

Yes the hilts are also proportionally smaller than regular sized coteng.

Michael

Thank you Michael!

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by BluErf

Hi Detlef,

The other sheath has a broken daunan, but the batang is one piece with the cross-piece. It is quite a waste to cut the batang to fit the first sheath.

If you don't have a keris blade and coteng hilt to fit the first sheath, why not just leave them be for the time being. If you do get a keris blade and coteng hilt in the future, you could send it to Malaysia to be fitted, and at the same time, get a batang and metal works done.

Hi Kai Wee,

yes, I think you are right, it will be the best to do nothing until I have a blade and hilt!

Regards,

Detlef

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by PenangsangII

the term ''keris selit'' is relatively new as traditionally, the smaller keris tucked in the waist band is called ''keris pandak'' in reference to short keris. Keris pandak normally holds a higher status as most probably its the type of pusaka / heirloom, whilst the longer keris could be the fighting /battle keris, which normally hand held.

WRT question on how these ppl battled out the Siamese, normally the Pattani fighters those days were also armed with klewang or parang. Though they are shorter, i did not doubt they can stand against the longer dha or a katana for that matter. These ppl have developed fighting style to suit their need, and the weapon culture was also developed for the continuous warfare with the Siamese.

Thank you for this informations!

Regards,

Detlef