west african knife. Which tribal group ?

Mauro · 29th October 2011, 05:29 PM

thanks Lew and Iain for the information. I am not able to open the http://anthro.amnh.org/anthropology...%20%2F%20%20394 Is there any mistake in the link ? I am happy to have found a twin of my machete and it also has a scabbard that add some information about the possible provenience of the piece. Thanks also to Lew for the connection to a previous thread that contains the list of symbols for west Africa. I already noted some of them in some swords but I have to find where.

Iain · 29th October 2011, 05:52 PM

I hope this link will work.
http://anthro.amnh.org//anthropology...vMHs1Huc.email

Mauro · 3rd November 2011, 10:03 PM

Iain, it works but it is not very similar. Thanks anyway.
Lew, would you be so kind to add a more detailed photo of your scabbard ?

ariel · 3rd November 2011, 10:19 PM

Isn't it peculiarly similar to the so-called Beduin pseudo-shashkas?

Mauro · 4th November 2011, 08:58 AM

Hi Ariel, could you add some photos or reference. Thanks

ariel · 10th November 2011, 07:41 PM

Here are examples from Artzi Yarom's site:

http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=67

http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=3538

Mauro · 11th November 2011, 12:21 AM

Many thanks Ariel. I really appreciate. I follow the Artzi site but erroneously almost uniquely the African side. You are right, these swords have many similarities with the sword I bought. The form of the handle is similar but the copper decorations of the handle in my blade is peculiar and I also note that the blade I presented is truncated as well as the blade of Lew. The scabbard of the Lew knife is also quite typical of West Africa. The fact that Bedouin tribes crossed the Sahara and are found from Maroc and other north African countries could suggest that our form is a slightly modified form of the blade you show to us. I think it is a quite good explanation and I would say that this is a blade of the Western African Bedouins. Many thanks again

29th October 2011, 05:29 PM	#1
Mauro Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 83	thanks Lew and Iain for the information. I am not able to open the http://anthro.amnh.org/anthropology...%20%2F%20%20394 Is there any mistake in the link ? I am happy to have found a twin of my machete and it also has a scabbard that add some information about the possible provenience of the piece. Thanks also to Lew for the connection to a previous thread that contains the list of symbols for west Africa. I already noted some of them in some swords but I have to find where.

29th October 2011, 05:52 PM	#2
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,708	I hope this link will work. http://anthro.amnh.org//anthropology...vMHs1Huc.email

3rd November 2011, 10:03 PM	#3
Mauro Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 83	Iain, it works but it is not very similar. Thanks anyway. Lew, would you be so kind to add a more detailed photo of your scabbard ?

3rd November 2011, 10:19 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Isn't it peculiarly similar to the so-called Beduin pseudo-shashkas?

4th November 2011, 08:58 AM	#5
Mauro Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 83	Hi Ariel, could you add some photos or reference. Thanks

10th November 2011, 07:41 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Here are examples from Artzi Yarom's site: http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=67 http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=3538

11th November 2011, 12:21 AM	#7
Mauro Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 83	Many thanks Ariel. I really appreciate. I follow the Artzi site but erroneously almost uniquely the African side. You are right, these swords have many similarities with the sword I bought. The form of the handle is similar but the copper decorations of the handle in my blade is peculiar and I also note that the blade I presented is truncated as well as the blade of Lew. The scabbard of the Lew knife is also quite typical of West Africa. The fact that Bedouin tribes crossed the Sahara and are found from Maroc and other north African countries could suggest that our form is a slightly modified form of the blade you show to us. I think it is a quite good explanation and I would say that this is a blade of the Western African Bedouins. Many thanks again