Opinion requested about a keris blade

Rick · 23rd October 2011, 06:03 PM

That is one hell of a modification if it is, Detlef .

It looks like it was made that way to me .

Since you presumably have it in hand; does it look modified to you ?

Rick

Sajen · 23rd October 2011, 06:36 PM

Hi Rick,

thank you for fast respond.
I am very unsure, it is obviously an old blade with an old gonjo repair and an old worn pesi. I have taken some close ups now where you can see (I hope) why I am a little bit distrustful. Look at the first and fourth picture! And I never have seen before a blade with such a shape/dhapur. I have learned here and by years of collecting to be suspicious.

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 23rd October 2011, 07:06 PM

Looks like it was made this way originally to me too. One heck of an odd piece. Recent manufacture?

Sajen · 23rd October 2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Looks like it was made this way originally to me too. One heck of an odd piece. Recent manufacture?

Hello Jose,

also to you thank you for comment. I don't think that the blade is recent, but who know?!

Let us see what others say about this blade, like I am said before: I am suspicious.

Regards,

Detlef

David · 23rd October 2011, 10:36 PM

Well, it looks like a variation on a dhapur i have seen called Kebo Giri, though all the ones i have seen, including the one i own myself, are stictlly a lurus dhapur. I have never seen one become a luk blade above the sekar kacang.
All of this form of Kebo blade are exaggerated and have the sekar kacang way up high on the blade.

David · 23rd October 2011, 10:39 PM

Here is an old thread that discusses this blade form.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=73978

Sajen · 23rd October 2011, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Well, it looks like a variation on a dhapur i have seen called Kebo Giri, though all the ones i have seen, including the one i own myself, are stictlly a lurus dhapur. I have never seen one become a luk blade above the sekar kacang.
All of this form of Kebo blade are exaggerated and have the sekar kacang way up high on the blade.

Hi David,

I am as well never have seen a Kebo blade where up from the sekar kacang luk added. But your hint that the sekar kacang is every time way up high on the blade would mean that the denting seen by my first and fourth picture mean nothing and be caused by forging!?

Regards,

Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 29th October 2011, 04:54 AM

Today is the first time I have been able to see this blade.

In my opinion it is original, unaltered, and not recent.

23rd October 2011, 06:36 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,207	Hi Rick, thank you for fast respond. I am very unsure, it is obviously an old blade with an old gonjo repair and an old worn pesi. I have taken some close ups now where you can see (I hope) why I am a little bit distrustful. Look at the first and fourth picture! And I never have seen before a blade with such a shape/dhapur. I have learned here and by years of collecting to be suspicious. Regards, Detlef Attached Images Last edited by Sajen; 23rd October 2011 at 11:03 PM.

23rd October 2011, 06:03 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	That is one hell of a modification if it is, Detlef . It looks like it was made that way to me . Since you presumably have it in hand; does it look modified to you ? Rick

23rd October 2011, 07:06 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Looks like it was made this way originally to me too. One heck of an odd piece. Recent manufacture?

23rd October 2011, 10:36 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Well, it looks like a variation on a dhapur i have seen called Kebo Giri, though all the ones i have seen, including the one i own myself, are stictlly a lurus dhapur. I have never seen one become a luk blade above the sekar kacang. All of this form of Kebo blade are exaggerated and have the sekar kacang way up high on the blade.

23rd October 2011, 10:39 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Here is an old thread that discusses this blade form. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=73978

29th October 2011, 04:54 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Today is the first time I have been able to see this blade. In my opinion it is original, unaltered, and not recent.