Arabic translation assistance on Sumatran keris

tunggulametung · 22nd October 2011, 11:22 AM

Hello, this is the closest I can get, hope other members can supply more accurate translation. Thanks

kai · 23rd October 2011, 03:13 AM

Thanks a lot for your efforts with the translation! Please post a link to that website!

Rick, please post close-ups of the hilt and crosspiece (from several angles would be great). I'm sure the Malay afficianados will chime in with additional info on possible area of origin as well as age. BTW, what's the length of the blade?

Regards,
Kai

Raja Muda · 23rd October 2011, 03:45 PM

It is Malay in Jawi script.

My suggested reading is "Datuk Bendahara Pahang, Hadiah, Allah Selamatkan yang menyimpan"

I'm guessing it means (from the) Datuk Bendahara of Pahang, A Gift, God preserves he who keeps it (the keris).

The Bendahara of Pahang was the representative of the Sultan of Johor, Riau and Lingga in the swathe of territory that is the modern state of Pahang in Malaysia.
They were from a junior line of the Bendahara dynasty which took power in Johor, after the last Sultan of the old Melaka dynasty was assasinated (the infamous Sultan Mahmud mangkat dijulang)
In the latter part of the 19th century, during the height of Dutch and British intervention in the archipelago, which ended any semblance of the earlier Johor Empire, the Bendahara of Pahang took on the title of Sultan to reflect his independence from the Sultan in Lingga and Yamtuans in Penyegat.

In the earlier years of the 19th century, the Bendahara associated with this keris would have probably been Bendahara Paduka Raja Tun Ali. It was customary that official letters of diplomatic nature to local and colonial counterparts were accompanied by gifts such as keris, which would explain the possible provenance of this keris.

tunggulametung · 23rd October 2011, 07:04 PM

Hello Kai here is link to the translator: http://ejawi.dyndns.org/e-jawi/v3/index?e=converter

Thanks Raja Muda for the better translations and interesting historical background

RSWORD · 24th October 2011, 01:28 AM

Yes, thank you Raja Muda for the translation and historical information. Also, thank you tunggulametung for your translation assistance as well. All very helpful and much appreciated.

22nd October 2011, 11:22 AM	#1
tunggulametung Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 238	Hello, this is the closest I can get, hope other members can supply more accurate translation. Thanks Attached Images

23rd October 2011, 03:45 PM	#3
Raja Muda Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 100	Reading of inscription It is Malay in Jawi script. My suggested reading is "Datuk Bendahara Pahang, Hadiah, Allah Selamatkan yang menyimpan" I'm guessing it means (from the) Datuk Bendahara of Pahang, A Gift, God preserves he who keeps it (the keris). The Bendahara of Pahang was the representative of the Sultan of Johor, Riau and Lingga in the swathe of territory that is the modern state of Pahang in Malaysia. They were from a junior line of the Bendahara dynasty which took power in Johor, after the last Sultan of the old Melaka dynasty was assasinated (the infamous Sultan Mahmud mangkat dijulang) In the latter part of the 19th century, during the height of Dutch and British intervention in the archipelago, which ended any semblance of the earlier Johor Empire, the Bendahara of Pahang took on the title of Sultan to reflect his independence from the Sultan in Lingga and Yamtuans in Penyegat. In the earlier years of the 19th century, the Bendahara associated with this keris would have probably been Bendahara Paduka Raja Tun Ali. It was customary that official letters of diplomatic nature to local and colonial counterparts were accompanied by gifts such as keris, which would explain the possible provenance of this keris.

23rd October 2011, 03:13 AM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Thanks a lot for your efforts with the translation! Please post a link to that website! Rick, please post close-ups of the hilt and crosspiece (from several angles would be great). I'm sure the Malay afficianados will chime in with additional info on possible area of origin as well as age. BTW, what's the length of the blade? Regards, Kai

23rd October 2011, 07:04 PM	#4
tunggulametung Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 238	Hello Kai here is link to the translator: http://ejawi.dyndns.org/e-jawi/v3/index?e=converter Thanks Raja Muda for the better translations and interesting historical background

24th October 2011, 01:28 AM	#5
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,086	Yes, thank you Raja Muda for the translation and historical information. Also, thank you tunggulametung for your translation assistance as well. All very helpful and much appreciated.