Bali keris

David · 14th October 2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I wonder if this blade had been 'revised' at some point later in its life .

That's my feeling as well Rick...

Rick · 14th October 2011, 04:14 PM

I'm seeing lots of (forging ?) flaws on one side of the blade ...... or are they from rust ??

The piece does not look overly topographic as old Jawa keris often do from repeated washing and re-stain .

Puzzling .

David · 14th October 2011, 06:26 PM

Well, i think it's needs a good cleaning and stain to really be able to properly assess the blade. Dirt and rust can easily hide revisions to blade profile.
As for not having a topographic surface, it is present in Bali dress. I'm not convinced that the blade's origins are Bali, but if it has been kept as a Bali keris over the years it would probably have received the Balinese approach of keeping the blade polished smooth.

Rick · 15th October 2011, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Well, i think it's needs a good cleaning and stain to really be able to properly assess the blade. Dirt and rust can easily hide revisions to blade profile.
As for not having a topographic surface, it is present in Bali dress. I'm not convinced that the blade's origins are Bali, but if it has been kept as a Bali keris over the years it would probably have received the Balinese approach of keeping the blade polished smooth.

Yes, it has not seen a lot of washing and was finished smooth; but why do we see such large cold shuts/forging flaws in a blade that appears so nicely carved at the sorsoran ?

Sajen · 15th October 2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Yes, it has not seen a lot of washing and was finished smooth; but why do we see such large cold shuts/forging flaws in a blade that appears so nicely carved at the sorsoran ?

I have my doubts as well, the forging flaws let me think that the gandhik is a later addition.

Jean · 15th October 2011, 10:19 AM

What would Alan say about this blade? I am puzzled also, the carved motif is quite impressive and from the pictures I don't see clearly any sign of welding and the metal colour looks the same as the blade? The shape of the ganja does not look Javanese?

A. G. Maisey · 15th October 2011, 10:34 AM

Jean, Alan would prefer not to comment.

Everything you need to know is sitting right there in front of you, just look carefully and think.

14th October 2011, 04:14 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I'm seeing lots of (forging ?) flaws on one side of the blade ...... or are they from rust ?? The piece does not look overly topographic as old Jawa keris often do from repeated washing and re-stain . Puzzling .

14th October 2011, 06:26 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Well, i think it's needs a good cleaning and stain to really be able to properly assess the blade. Dirt and rust can easily hide revisions to blade profile. As for not having a topographic surface, it is present in Bali dress. I'm not convinced that the blade's origins are Bali, but if it has been kept as a Bali keris over the years it would probably have received the Balinese approach of keeping the blade polished smooth.

15th October 2011, 10:19 AM	#6
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	What would Alan say about this blade? I am puzzled also, the carved motif is quite impressive and from the pictures I don't see clearly any sign of welding and the metal colour looks the same as the blade? The shape of the ganja does not look Javanese?

15th October 2011, 10:34 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Jean, Alan would prefer not to comment. Everything you need to know is sitting right there in front of you, just look carefully and think.