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Old 28th September 2011, 11:19 AM   #1
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Sorry to perform a bit of Thread Necromancy, everyone, but what's the score on this idea? Have there been discussions; has any progress been made? For what it's worth, I like the concept a lot; it'd be a shame if it faded into the background again.
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Old 28th September 2011, 04:21 PM   #2
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Sorry to perform a bit of Thread Necromancy, everyone, but what's the score on this idea? Have there been discussions; has any progress been made? For what it's worth, I like the concept a lot; it'd be a shame if it faded into the background again.
I second these thoughts. I hope this comes to fruition. Thanks, Rick.
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Old 29th September 2011, 03:17 PM   #3
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I second these thoughts. I hope this comes to fruition. Thanks, Rick.

Salaams, Im certain that everyone agrees and even if it was an alphabetical Index which forumites could add to gradually ~ later it could be expanded. I would wager that most items appearing in the forum have had some form of restoration work applied even basic cleaning and oiling... I feel that a simple "add to index" would take the strain off moderator involvement. This could even just be a thread.. Look at Jims thread on blade marks ... its collosal in terms of readership and importance to the forum... Why not just open another what I would term Superthread called Restoration... and see how that fills up...?

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Second that suggestion. The thread could simply be an index, to which members would be trusted to add useful links. Moderator involvement would still be necessary in order to incorporate the various sub-threads into a Table of Contents in the first post, but if the members post links in the body of the threads itself then not only is the workload of the Mods considerably reduced (owing to the links' concentration therein), but any suggestions which don't make the ToC are still easily located by those seeking them.

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Old 7th October 2011, 01:26 AM   #5
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I look forward to benefitting form this repository of knowledge, and graciously thank those who have committed their time to this effort.

Would this thread be the best place to make suggestions for the consideration of the members working on this project? I am sure there are many of us who, while not involved in this project, might have suggestions pertaining to content or structure that would add value...
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Gentlemen,
I believe this idea is a very good one....but I have reservations. Numerous Techniques of restoration are the same as 'manufacture', which may help the 'fakers' or those that 'dress-up' less valuable weapons for profit. We could end up passing useful information to these individuals.

I believe that this information should be protected by limiting access ....ie members only and perhaps a 'minimum' number of postings before access. This would help limit viewing to potential fakers and perhaps more inexperienced collectors whom may 'unwittingly' attempt restoration on a 'significant' piece.

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Gentlemen,
I believe this idea is a very good one....but I have reservations. Numerous Techniques of restoration are the same as 'manufacture', which may help the 'fakers' or those that 'dress-up' less valuable weapons for profit. We could end up passing useful information to these individuals.

I believe that this information should be protected by limiting access ....ie members only and perhaps a 'minimum' number of postings before access. This would help limit viewing to potential fakers and perhaps more inexperienced collectors whom may 'unwittingly' attempt restoration on a 'significant' piece.

Kind Regards David
Salaams, Thats a fair one. It could be done like that or similar.. No one likes throwing away trade secrets thats true.. Minimum postings access is a clever addition. Perhaps we can get this up and running as a pilot scheme and reassess it after 3 months/ 6 months... Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.
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Old 17th October 2011, 09:56 AM   #8
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Gentlemen,
I believe this idea is a very good one....but I have reservations. Numerous Techniques of restoration are the same as 'manufacture', which may help the 'fakers' or those that 'dress-up' less valuable weapons for profit. We could end up passing useful information to these individuals.

I believe that this information should be protected by limiting access ....ie members only and perhaps a 'minimum' number of postings before access. This would help limit viewing to potential fakers and perhaps more inexperienced collectors whom may 'unwittingly' attempt restoration on a 'significant' piece.

Kind Regards David
A fair concern, David, but I suspect (sadly) that any "trade secrets" held on this board are already out in the hands of fakers and charlatans anyway; this being a public forum, it's hardly the sort of place where security is particularly tight. I admit that this thread would effectively put all the eggs in one easy-to-reach basket, however; perhaps, if the security concern is paramount, we could do as suggested above.

A password-protected sub-forum is an obvious solution, which has only the debit points of increased Moderator workload and restrictiveness to consider. Unfortunately, whilst I'm no philosopher, I worry that restricting access to such information would perhaps be a betrayal of what I can best term the spirit of this forum; is it not here that the curious, the learners, and the lucky owners of antique arms, may benefit from the knowledge herein regardless of whether or not they elect to join up?

It seems a pity to close the doors to our library.
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Old 17th October 2011, 09:36 PM   #9
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Gentlemen,
I believe this idea is a very good one....but I have reservations. Numerous Techniques of restoration are the same as 'manufacture', which may help the 'fakers' or those that 'dress-up' less valuable weapons for profit. We could end up passing useful information to these individuals.

I believe that this information should be protected by limiting access ....ie members only and perhaps a 'minimum' number of postings before access. This would help limit viewing to potential fakers and perhaps more inexperienced collectors whom may 'unwittingly' attempt restoration on a 'significant' piece.

Kind Regards David
The first paragraph above of David's Post is exactly my concern, as in my Post #9 of this Thread.
I think it would be fair to say that at some stage we have all come across signs of grinding wheels and excessive cleaning. While this might be what a non collector is happy with to hang on the wall for decoration, it is not what the average collector will generally tolerate. Often a nice original piece which would have had an age patina has been ruined. Items like this DO come up for sale from various quarters regularly.
Perhaps (if this idea proceeds) some guides as to how to identify this practice could be included.
Regards Stu
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