Mendak

Jean · 28th September 2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Gustav

Here, http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...madura+wrongko, are some more questions and answers to be find.

Thank you Gustav (and Alan), interesting subject!

kai · 30th September 2011, 09:15 AM

Hello Danny,

Please post more pics of the 2nd keris!

I feel that it rather strengthens the POV that this pair did came from Madura (with obviously heavy cultural influence from Bali). I'd keep both as found - IMVHO it would be a shame to alter a genuine combo as both appear to be. I'd only consider to patch the drilled holes with wax (or a traditional woodfiller if you're sure to achieve the same color).

I'd love to hear Alan's opinion wether such a selut as seen with the 2nd keris is also not unusual for the Madura-Bali setting!

Regards,
Kai

David · 30th September 2011, 05:25 PM

I agree. From what i can see of this second keris i thing it may well not be a Bali keris either. The shape of the sheath seems off and the mendak here certainly doesn't look Balinese. Please show us the whole thing...

danny1976 · 30th September 2011, 07:44 PM

Hi David and Kai.

Oke here the photo,s of the second keris . It was not my intention to show this one because I was thinking to sale this keris and not keeping it for my collection but for learning and discussing it is of course useful to put the photo's here .

The Patin on the Waranka and hilt of this one is great , the ''mendak'' i have seen this style before on a Madura keris .
The Blade is nice and I already did some cleaning on this one .

So special for you two guy's

asomotif · 1st October 2011, 08:28 AM

VERY NICE JOB ON THE BLADE !

Sajen · 1st October 2011, 03:38 PM

Hi Danny,

agree with Willem, very good etching job and nice blade which look like a East Java or Madura blade to my eyes. Sheath and handle look balinese. But agree with Kai and David, keep it like found. How is the fit from the blade inside the sheath?

Regards,

Detlef

danny1976 · 2nd October 2011, 07:15 PM

Hi Detlef,

The fit of the blade in the sheath is not ''original'' the sheath is to wide for the blade , but I think it's already a long time like this .

I'm still not sure it's Balinese , it could be but the sheath is a little more ''fat'' then what you see common for a Balinese Waranka .

30th September 2011, 07:44 PM	#4
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hi David and Kai. Oke here the photo,s of the second keris . It was not my intention to show this one because I was thinking to sale this keris and not keeping it for my collection but for learning and discussing it is of course useful to put the photo's here . The Patin on the Waranka and hilt of this one is great , the ''mendak'' i have seen this style before on a Madura keris . The Blade is nice and I already did some cleaning on this one . So special for you two guy's Attached Images

2nd October 2011, 07:15 PM	#7
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hi Detlef, The fit of the blade in the sheath is not ''original'' the sheath is to wide for the blade , but I think it's already a long time like this . I'm still not sure it's Balinese , it could be but the sheath is a little more ''fat'' then what you see common for a Balinese Waranka . Last edited by David; 3rd October 2011 at 12:26 AM.

30th September 2011, 09:15 AM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Danny, Please post more pics of the 2nd keris! I feel that it rather strengthens the POV that this pair did came from Madura (with obviously heavy cultural influence from Bali). I'd keep both as found - IMVHO it would be a shame to alter a genuine combo as both appear to be. I'd only consider to patch the drilled holes with wax (or a traditional woodfiller if you're sure to achieve the same color). I'd love to hear Alan's opinion wether such a selut as seen with the 2nd keris is also not unusual for the Madura-Bali setting! Regards, Kai

30th September 2011, 05:25 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I agree. From what i can see of this second keris i thing it may well not be a Bali keris either. The shape of the sheath seems off and the mendak here certainly doesn't look Balinese. Please show us the whole thing...

1st October 2011, 08:28 AM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	VERY NICE JOB ON THE BLADE !

1st October 2011, 03:38 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hi Danny, agree with Willem, very good etching job and nice blade which look like a East Java or Madura blade to my eyes. Sheath and handle look balinese. But agree with Kai and David, keep it like found. How is the fit from the blade inside the sheath? Regards, Detlef