Mendak

Jean · 27th September 2011, 09:01 AM

Danny, this is a nice and rare style of mendak anyway.
Alan, please repeat the Sumenep - Bali story when you have time as I don't remember to have read it (unless somebody can refer to the thread in question), is it linked to the event when the Madurese enrolled Balinese soldiers for fighting against the Mataram kingdom?
Regards

Gustav · 27th September 2011, 10:03 AM

Here, http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...madura+wrongko, are some more questions and answers to be find.

danny1976 · 27th September 2011, 12:14 PM

@ Michael,

Thanks for showing , your's is a beauty . It is from the Tammen's keris isn't it?

@ Alan,

Thanks for the explanation , the story you're referring to is what I meant that we also can find on the keris disc from Jensen.

But I always thought if the keris has belonged to a Balinese living in Madura the waranka would have the ''eyebrow'' cut into the waranka ?
See the 2 photo,s a attached from the bigger brother I found together with 'my' keris we are discussing above. Or do I make a mistake and is the "eyebrow" not a typical Balinese feature ?

@ Gustav,

I will measure the mendhak later for you , thanks for bringing the link up.

Jean · 28th September 2011, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

Here, http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...madura+wrongko, are some more questions and answers to be find.

Thank you Gustav (and Alan), interesting subject!

kai · 30th September 2011, 09:15 AM

Hello Danny,

Please post more pics of the 2nd keris!

I feel that it rather strengthens the POV that this pair did came from Madura (with obviously heavy cultural influence from Bali). I'd keep both as found - IMVHO it would be a shame to alter a genuine combo as both appear to be. I'd only consider to patch the drilled holes with wax (or a traditional woodfiller if you're sure to achieve the same color).

I'd love to hear Alan's opinion wether such a selut as seen with the 2nd keris is also not unusual for the Madura-Bali setting!

Regards,
Kai

David · 30th September 2011, 05:25 PM

I agree. From what i can see of this second keris i thing it may well not be a Bali keris either. The shape of the sheath seems off and the mendak here certainly doesn't look Balinese. Please show us the whole thing...

danny1976 · 30th September 2011, 07:44 PM

Hi David and Kai.

Oke here the photo,s of the second keris . It was not my intention to show this one because I was thinking to sale this keris and not keeping it for my collection but for learning and discussing it is of course useful to put the photo's here .

The Patin on the Waranka and hilt of this one is great , the ''mendak'' i have seen this style before on a Madura keris .
The Blade is nice and I already did some cleaning on this one .

So special for you two guy's

asomotif · 1st October 2011, 08:28 AM

VERY NICE JOB ON THE BLADE !

27th September 2011, 12:14 PM	#3
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	@ Michael, Thanks for showing , your's is a beauty . It is from the Tammen's keris isn't it? @ Alan, Thanks for the explanation , the story you're referring to is what I meant that we also can find on the keris disc from Jensen. But I always thought if the keris has belonged to a Balinese living in Madura the waranka would have the ''eyebrow'' cut into the waranka ? See the 2 photo,s a attached from the bigger brother I found together with 'my' keris we are discussing above. Or do I make a mistake and is the "eyebrow" not a typical Balinese feature ? @ Gustav, I will measure the mendhak later for you , thanks for bringing the link up. Attached Images

30th September 2011, 07:44 PM	#7
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hi David and Kai. Oke here the photo,s of the second keris . It was not my intention to show this one because I was thinking to sale this keris and not keeping it for my collection but for learning and discussing it is of course useful to put the photo's here . The Patin on the Waranka and hilt of this one is great , the ''mendak'' i have seen this style before on a Madura keris . The Blade is nice and I already did some cleaning on this one . So special for you two guy's Attached Images

27th September 2011, 09:01 AM	#1
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Danny, this is a nice and rare style of mendak anyway. Alan, please repeat the Sumenep - Bali story when you have time as I don't remember to have read it (unless somebody can refer to the thread in question), is it linked to the event when the Madurese enrolled Balinese soldiers for fighting against the Mataram kingdom? Regards

27th September 2011, 10:03 AM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Here, http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...madura+wrongko, are some more questions and answers to be find.

30th September 2011, 09:15 AM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Danny, Please post more pics of the 2nd keris! I feel that it rather strengthens the POV that this pair did came from Madura (with obviously heavy cultural influence from Bali). I'd keep both as found - IMVHO it would be a shame to alter a genuine combo as both appear to be. I'd only consider to patch the drilled holes with wax (or a traditional woodfiller if you're sure to achieve the same color). I'd love to hear Alan's opinion wether such a selut as seen with the 2nd keris is also not unusual for the Madura-Bali setting! Regards, Kai

30th September 2011, 05:25 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I agree. From what i can see of this second keris i thing it may well not be a Bali keris either. The shape of the sheath seems off and the mendak here certainly doesn't look Balinese. Please show us the whole thing...

1st October 2011, 08:28 AM	#8
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	VERY NICE JOB ON THE BLADE !