ASSIB JAMBIYA FOR COMMENT AND TRANSLATION

AJ1356 · 10th September 2011, 05:01 PM

Just remembered that 11 is the numerical value in Arabic of الله Allah, it is totally common that instead writing Allah most still write 11.

A.alnakkas · 11th September 2011, 12:40 AM

Am not too sure about the translation.. Some words can have many meanings because the scribe decided to use dots.. Confusing and annoying lol. I love the dagger though..

AJ1356 · 11th September 2011, 06:08 PM

The only thing we can not be sure of is what comes after Mohammad محمد the rest is dead on. Even with dots it is pretty easy to read. Someone who is a native Arab should be able to decypher the rest.

A.alnakkas · 11th September 2011, 06:54 PM

Hey mate,

Agree on that, after mohammed it gets rather difficult. I can see that the left side is a reference to a country as I can read Qatar قطر there. Do you see it aswell?

A.alnakkas · 11th September 2011, 07:13 PM

Just to explain my view, the word that looks like qatar قطر could also mean qitr قِطر which could mean direction or branch (of an organisation) or it could be fitr فطر which can mean to break fast or to break "something"

Thats why I think its confusing. Because every single word can have such multiple meanings.

A.alnakkas · 11th September 2011, 07:22 PM

I think the right inscription is: Ahmed Mohammed baq احمد محمد باق then I think it says either Olan عولان or Holan هولان or Holat هولات or Olat عولات both sounds like names but they are unfamiliar to me (am a northern kuwaiti arab so some
southern names are unfamiliar here) keep in mind that most black smiths back then are not good examples in writting arabic. So it could be a name spelled wrongly. The bottom inscription in the right side is rabea amal ربيع امل which means spring of hope but I could be wrong.

Need more time on the left one :/

10th September 2011, 05:01 PM	#1
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 317	Just remembered that 11 is the numerical value in Arabic of الله Allah, it is totally common that instead writing Allah most still write 11.

11th September 2011, 12:40 AM	#2
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Am not too sure about the translation.. Some words can have many meanings because the scribe decided to use dots.. Confusing and annoying lol. I love the dagger though..

11th September 2011, 06:08 PM	#3
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 317	The only thing we can not be sure of is what comes after Mohammad محمد the rest is dead on. Even with dots it is pretty easy to read. Someone who is a native Arab should be able to decypher the rest.

11th September 2011, 06:54 PM	#4
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Hey mate, Agree on that, after mohammed it gets rather difficult. I can see that the left side is a reference to a country as I can read Qatar قطر there. Do you see it aswell?

11th September 2011, 07:13 PM	#5
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Just to explain my view, the word that looks like qatar قطر could also mean qitr قِطر which could mean direction or branch (of an organisation) or it could be fitr فطر which can mean to break fast or to break "something" Thats why I think its confusing. Because every single word can have such multiple meanings.

11th September 2011, 07:22 PM	#6
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	I think the right inscription is: Ahmed Mohammed baq احمد محمد باق then I think it says either Olan عولان or Holan هولان or Holat هولات or Olat عولات both sounds like names but they are unfamiliar to me (am a northern kuwaiti arab so some southern names are unfamiliar here) keep in mind that most black smiths back then are not good examples in writting arabic. So it could be a name spelled wrongly. The bottom inscription in the right side is rabea amal ربيع امل which means spring of hope but I could be wrong. Need more time on the left one :/