Mandau with twist core

Maurice · 30th August 2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VVV

Here is my twist core kampilan. I haven't seen that many???
The reason why I don't think it's just a reshaped kampilan blade is that it's much thinner than a mandau blade.

And here is a parang pedang with twist core. That's the only one I have seen.
So if it's reshaped it most probably have been made out of a sulu kris.

Michael

With "I've seen several" I meant on images (your kampilan with twistcore included).
PS your parang pedang I've handled a while ago and is breathtaking!

Is a Sulu kris long enough to transform it to your mandaublade? (You might measure them next to your mandaublade, see if they would be long enough to reshape them?)

Maurice

asomotif · 30th August 2011, 11:36 AM

Hello Michael,

Odd one. I have never seen any mandau blade with a deliberately forged pattern. I can only think this is a trade blade reshaped into a mandaublade.

Measurements and a picture of the spine would be helpfull to the forumites.

Nice handle on this mandau BTW

Best regards,
Willem

Spunjer · 30th August 2011, 11:53 AM

here's a picture of a mandau (bottom row) among other moro weapons in a guardhouse. not common, but mandaus were used in sulu

Maurice · 30th August 2011, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

here's a picture of a mandau (bottom row) among other moro weapons in a guardhouse. not common, but mandaus were used in sulu

Ron, that would also be an option......
Cool picture!

Spunjer · 30th August 2011, 12:08 PM

another Mandau that was presented to an american officer from Datu Pantog (?) of Tawi-Tawi...

VVV · 30th August 2011, 08:44 PM

The blade is 62 cm/24 1/2" long so it seems too long to be an ex-kris.
The spine is 0,5 cm, see pict, so it's slightly thinner than average (0,7 - 0,8 cm?). So maybe a rare twist core kampilan if it's reshaped?
It doesn't surprise me that you find mandaus in the Sulu archipelago based on how both Tausug and Iban traveled together. Maybe a nice souvenir?
It's always more exciting with foreign stuff than domestic. It's the same with the South Borneo Beladah Belabang found as a court sword in the Sulu archipelago.

Michael

ThePepperSkull · 31st August 2011, 06:09 PM

Wow, great piece! I really don't have anything of value to add to this conversation aside from being green with envy

30th August 2011, 11:53 AM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	here's a picture of a mandau (bottom row) among other moro weapons in a guardhouse. not common, but mandaus were used in sulu Attached Images

30th August 2011, 12:08 PM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	another Mandau that was presented to an american officer from Datu Pantog (?) of Tawi-Tawi... Attached Images

30th August 2011, 08:44 PM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	The blade is 62 cm/24 1/2" long so it seems too long to be an ex-kris. The spine is 0,5 cm, see pict, so it's slightly thinner than average (0,7 - 0,8 cm?). So maybe a rare twist core kampilan if it's reshaped? It doesn't surprise me that you find mandaus in the Sulu archipelago based on how both Tausug and Iban traveled together. Maybe a nice souvenir? It's always more exciting with foreign stuff than domestic. It's the same with the South Borneo Beladah Belabang found as a court sword in the Sulu archipelago. Michael Attached Images

30th August 2011, 11:36 AM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Hello Michael, Odd one. I have never seen any mandau blade with a deliberately forged pattern. I can only think this is a trade blade reshaped into a mandaublade. Measurements and a picture of the spine would be helpfull to the forumites. Nice handle on this mandau BTW Best regards, Willem

31st August 2011, 06:09 PM	#7
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	Wow, great piece! I really don't have anything of value to add to this conversation aside from being green with envy