Mandau with twist core

Henk · 29th August 2011, 02:54 PM

Michael,

Where do you find those amazing blades you surprise us with every time? I can hardly imagine you find these magnificent stuff in some swedish shed with a sign loppis.
Just love it and is probably one of a kind.

Battara · 29th August 2011, 05:27 PM

Yes one of a kind trade blade. Great piece - thanks for sharing.

CCUAL · 29th August 2011, 06:30 PM

Very beautiful sword. Interesting pattern, as if the twisted stars were on the outer layer of the blade. Very nice.

VVV · 29th August 2011, 09:11 PM

Thanks all,

Maurice, I also would place it in ex- British North Borneo.
This means that there were contacts with Tausugs (= twist core).
Henk, in this case it wasn't at any "loppis" (= flea market)

Who can tell me more if it's a reshaped non-dayak blade and other indications?

Michael

Tim Simmons · 29th August 2011, 09:36 PM

Perhaps it is a made up piece?

CCUAL · 29th August 2011, 10:04 PM

Hello Michael, how is the weight and thickness of the blade? I do not have a clue if Mandau people ever etch there blades, but as I was browsing thru the photos that you posted, #5, does the twist pattern part of the blade it self? because it appears that the pattern is fairly untouched based on the age or its like those koftgari, inlay on the outer layer of the blade. I am completely new to this and I am amized of the pattern. many thanks, chris

VVV · 30th August 2011, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Perhaps it is a made up piece?

Well somebody probably made it

Could you please develop this idea and the indications for it?

Michael

Maurice · 30th August 2011, 08:57 AM

This is no made up piece imo.

The more I look at it the more I intend to believe the blade could be made for this mandau (by a Tausug smith what seem to be most likely)

I still need to see a (moro) blade with such twistcore this broad as on Michaels piece which could be a good candidate to turn it in the blade on Michael's.

I've seen several kampilans with twistcore blades, but the twistcore seem to be narrower as it's the case here!

Maybe it could be made for this mandau afterall???
Very interesting and I hope a forummember could post an image of a moroblade which "could be" turned into Michael's blade.

Maurice

29th August 2011, 02:54 PM	#1
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Michael, Where do you find those amazing blades you surprise us with every time? I can hardly imagine you find these magnificent stuff in some swedish shed with a sign loppis. Just love it and is probably one of a kind.

29th August 2011, 05:27 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Yes one of a kind trade blade. Great piece - thanks for sharing.

29th August 2011, 06:30 PM	#3
CCUAL Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 76	Very beautiful sword. Interesting pattern, as if the twisted stars were on the outer layer of the blade. Very nice.

29th August 2011, 09:11 PM	#4
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks all, Maurice, I also would place it in ex- British North Borneo. This means that there were contacts with Tausugs (= twist core). Henk, in this case it wasn't at any "loppis" (= flea market) Who can tell me more if it's a reshaped non-dayak blade and other indications? Michael

29th August 2011, 09:36 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Perhaps it is a made up piece?

29th August 2011, 10:04 PM	#6
CCUAL Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 76	Hello Michael, how is the weight and thickness of the blade? I do not have a clue if Mandau people ever etch there blades, but as I was browsing thru the photos that you posted, #5, does the twist pattern part of the blade it self? because it appears that the pattern is fairly untouched based on the age or its like those koftgari, inlay on the outer layer of the blade. I am completely new to this and I am amized of the pattern. many thanks, chris

30th August 2011, 08:57 AM	#8
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	This is no made up piece imo. The more I look at it the more I intend to believe the blade could be made for this mandau (by a Tausug smith what seem to be most likely) I still need to see a (moro) blade with such twistcore this broad as on Michaels piece which could be a good candidate to turn it in the blade on Michael's. I've seen several kampilans with twistcore blades, but the twistcore seem to be narrower as it's the case here! Maybe it could be made for this mandau afterall??? Very interesting and I hope a forummember could post an image of a moroblade which "could be" turned into Michael's blade. Maurice