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Hi Rick,
Thanks too, and best from another cold (16 degrees centigrade) and rainy Bavarian midnight, Michael |
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I sent these photos to Mr. Brian Godwin in the U.K. for his opinion. Brian is considered one of the foremost autorities on the Snaphaunce lock. Here is his response:
Hi Rick, Many thanks for the images of your snaphance lock. In my opinion it is North African and absolutely typical of its type. As you rightly say, they do copy the English snaphance of the early 17th century but there are subtle and very characteristic differences. Among these differences are the lockplate, which is generally much narrower (as you point out); the frizzen face, which is usually much wider; and the presence of a pan cover guide or retainer fixed over the pan (your image 003 - I have never seen one on an English snaphance). Most importantly, almost every English snaphance I have examined, whether a plain or a highly decorated version, is very well made and each component is carefully crafted and fits together well. This is just not the case for the North African snaphance which, generally, varies greatly in quality between good and bad, but they are never as well made as the English original. Your lock looks to be in very good condition and none of the components appear to be missing. I’m not trying to be negative about your lock but there are huge differences between the North African and the original English made examples. As your lock type copies the early 17th century snaphance it is very difficult to date but the most likely period is somewhere in the 18th or 19th century and it was almost certainly produced locally. The most likely area is Morocco, as you mention. Some have the part rounded type components while others have flat components. I would suggest that the marks on the hammer (cock) are accidental. I hope you are not too disappointed. It would have been great if it had been an English snaphance but it seems so very few have survived and none have to light through my Website enquiries yet. The North African snaphance is still a fascinating mechanism and you seem to have a very good example of one. The best literature on the North African snaphance is found in; “Firearms of the Islamic World” by Robert Elgood, London 1995, and “The Snaphance Muskets of al-Maghreb al-Mqsa” by Jim Gooding, Canadian Arms Collecting Journal, 1996. I hope this helps. Regards, Brian Well, there goes my 15 minutes of fame ![]() |
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Hola Rick
Queda pendiente resolver el misterio del tornillo en la mandíbula inferior. El experto Godwin tampoco se ha referido a él.... Hi Rick It remains to solve the mystery of the screw in the lower jaw. The expert Godwin has failed to refer to it .... Fernando |
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Hi Rick,
Sorry to hear this discouraging news but of course we have to accept Brian's expertise. Nevertheless, could you please ask him about the unusual presence of the two round breakthrus, as well of the finely roped decoration on top of the combined fire screen and pancover stabilization? I know these features only from English mechanisms. See attachment. I would not believe that it could be of African origin but then again, my range of information on these is limited. Still it is a nice mechanism of good quality and preserved in fine condition. Best, Michael |
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Fernando - Hello!! You are correct. I will get back to Brian about the top screw. That is the biggest mystery of all.
Michael: Good points. I have two other Moroccan snaphaunce locks. Neither have the two holes in the pan cover guide or the fine roped detail. Also, notice on the inside of the lock there is a small arm and screw which stablizes the pan cover arm so it doesn't wobble. My other locks dont have that feature. I'll ask Brian about this also. Thanks, Rick. |
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Michael: The last set of four pictures you sent showing the better quality gun: Except for the top screw, the lock on this gun is almost identical to mine. Notice the curve on top of the frizzen, the more narrow lock plate, the hammer stop positioned higher on the lock plate, the design of the hammer stop, and even the two holes in the pan cover guide. Rick.
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Thanks for pointing that out, Rick!
Still, the actual style is different, and so is the raised, roped sharp rim. Best, Michael |
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