Restoration Workshop Library.

kai · 20th July 2011, 10:28 PM

Hello Rick,

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You may have removed old lime accents that have discolored over time .

I can't see any hints for lime accents on this kris hilt - looks like genuine dirt to me from the before pics. Lime is not that rare on kampilan pommels and guards (away from the gripping area); I doubt that lime would last for any reasonable period on small kris hilts though...

Regards,
Kai

Rick · 21st July 2011, 12:43 AM

Okay Kai .
Now, what about moving forward with what you Gentlemen wish for .

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 21st July 2011, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Okay Kai .
Now, what about moving forward with what you Gentlemen wish for .

Salaams,
Thankyou. I agree that this requires a forum members input solution backed and supported by moderator staff.

Thinking aloud~ I see initially a sticky to carry the concepts onto an alphabetical index. I suggest that this is such a good idea that access should only be to forum members and in a way this would attract non members to join. It is therefor a marketing tool in addition to being an excellent aspect of the forum site.

Personally I believe strongly in the restoration workshop idea because it is continuous and always therefor being updated and relies upon everyone to input. It is therefor live and current and underlines the live debate and continuous interchange of ideas in our Forum. I strongly suggest that a general e mail to all members introducing this quite vital and lively restoration workshop library be sent ..

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Atlantia · 21st July 2011, 08:03 AM

This is such a huge subject, it would need it's own sub-forum where articles on specific elements of restoration could be posted or moved.

Mefidk · 21st July 2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia

This is such a huge subject, it would need it's own sub-forum where articles on specific elements of restoration could be posted or moved.

Sounds like an excellent idea to me. There is lots of information out there in the forums regarding 'looking after' our artefacts, but it is sometimes hard to find. A sub-forum would make it both centralized, and more easily accessible than a few sticky threads. That way preservation, conservation and restoration could all be given enough space to grow into a really useful library.

Rick · 21st July 2011, 06:49 PM

A passworded private subforum can possibly be created for this effort's researchers/compilers .
I would think a half dozen dedicated people would suffice for the effort .
A lot will be search engine work on this site and others; gleaning if you will .

After the resource effort is completed then it could be made a regular subforum or page .

There will probably be additions to be made in the future to the list; I would suggest that they be made as PM's to that forum's future Moderator .

I strongly believe that at least *some* vetting of submitted tips and hints should be carried out .

I also think that public posting in this sub-forum should not be allowed .
We want to get information across clearly and simply; chatter would only make sorting things out harder .

This site has no commercial interests at all nor does it want to have any; everything is paid for; ain't life grand .

Rick

A. G. Maisey · 23rd July 2011, 05:50 AM

My own area of special interest is one where ongoing restoration is an accepted and normal part of collection.

It is the normal, natural process that is applied to preserving the items which those of us involved in this sphere of tosan aji pursue.

Because of this, much of what has already been said in this thread appears to be self evident to me, and I have not contributed before now because I felt that another post in general agreement with the proposals that have been put forward would not be particularly valuable.

However, I note that Rick has suggested a way in which ongoing contributions to a resource to assist conservation/restoration could be structured in order to make it a safe and useable guide for people with varying levels of experience.

I wish to make it a matter of record that I fully endorse Rick's suggestions, and I feel that if anybody has any additional contribution or comment in respect of these suggestions, now might be a very good time to speak up.

Either we want something useable, or we do not.

Either we want a clearly structured way in which to proceed, or we do not.

The moderators and staff of our discussion group cannot function in a vacuum: - they need feedback and comment in order to make not only this idea for a restoration resource functional but indeed , for the ongoing success of our very valuable Forum.

In respect of what approach should be adopted in the restoration/conservation of historic weaponry, I feel that the philosophy of the professional restorator is probably correct:-

do as much as is necessary, and as little as is possible.

kai · 24th July 2011, 12:35 AM

Hello Rick,

I'm game.

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A passworded private subforum can possibly be created for this effort's researchers/compilers .
I would think a half dozen dedicated people would suffice for the effort .

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I strongly believe that at least *some* vetting of submitted tips and hints should be carried out .

Maybe some more folks with experience in different areas or topics may be nice to allow for discussions and different POVs.

Regards,
Kai

21st July 2011, 06:49 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Depends On The Boss, But ..... A passworded private subforum can possibly be created for this effort's researchers/compilers . I would think a half dozen dedicated people would suffice for the effort . A lot will be search engine work on this site and others; gleaning if you will . After the resource effort is completed then it could be made a regular subforum or page . There will probably be additions to be made in the future to the list; I would suggest that they be made as PM's to that forum's future Moderator . I strongly believe that at least some vetting of submitted tips and hints should be carried out . I also think that public posting in this sub-forum should not be allowed . We want to get information across clearly and simply; chatter would only make sorting things out harder . This site has no commercial interests at all nor does it want to have any; everything is paid for; ain't life grand . Rick

21st July 2011, 12:43 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Okay Kai . Now, what about moving forward with what you Gentlemen wish for .

21st July 2011, 08:03 AM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	This is such a huge subject, it would need it's own sub-forum where articles on specific elements of restoration could be posted or moved.

23rd July 2011, 05:50 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	My own area of special interest is one where ongoing restoration is an accepted and normal part of collection. It is the normal, natural process that is applied to preserving the items which those of us involved in this sphere of tosan aji pursue. Because of this, much of what has already been said in this thread appears to be self evident to me, and I have not contributed before now because I felt that another post in general agreement with the proposals that have been put forward would not be particularly valuable. However, I note that Rick has suggested a way in which ongoing contributions to a resource to assist conservation/restoration could be structured in order to make it a safe and useable guide for people with varying levels of experience. I wish to make it a matter of record that I fully endorse Rick's suggestions, and I feel that if anybody has any additional contribution or comment in respect of these suggestions, now might be a very good time to speak up. Either we want something useable, or we do not. Either we want a clearly structured way in which to proceed, or we do not. The moderators and staff of our discussion group cannot function in a vacuum: - they need feedback and comment in order to make not only this idea for a restoration resource functional but indeed , for the ongoing success of our very valuable Forum. In respect of what approach should be adopted in the restoration/conservation of historic weaponry, I feel that the philosophy of the professional restorator is probably correct:- do as much as is necessary, and as little as is possible.