Unpretentious Ottoman dagger

[Dom]

small up !

no comments

nobody has an opinion ?? strange

it's ugly at a point, that it's better to said nothing

SAY SO ... I know to face the truth, no hurt

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Dom

[Atlantia]

Hi Dom,

Ok, 'ole faithful' will have a go

The blade decoration reminds me of the large dagger that Fernando had in the swap forum a while back (he has sold it, so it's not still 'for sale' and so it's ok to talk about)
The decorations on the scabbard and hilt look like applied disks. They also seem at odds with the Ottoman origin and in fact remind me of Japanese Mon/Kamon in style.

An interesting piece, be nice to see it restored.

Best
Gene

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

An interesting piece, be nice to see it restored.

Best
Gene

Hi Gene
I look for, the "Fernando" post, concerning a similar dagger, but unsuccessfully
I am very curious to know his comments about his own dagger,
specially if he sold it,
a good seller has every time very good and pertinent arguments

sure, it will be restored, I purchased it for 2,5 peanuts

as the scabbard is in "metal sheet" I doubt that it was show like that,
may be plated by "tombac" ?? or by ??? or nothing

it's this type of information that I try to collect,
but till now excepted you, and a very good friend by PM,
nobody seems interested by my subject

Thanks to both of you

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Dom

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Dom

Hi Gene
I look for, the "Fernando" post, concerning a similar dagger, but unsuccessfully
I am very curious to know his comments about his own dagger,
specially if he sold it,
a good seller has every time very good and pertinent arguments

sure, it will be restored, I purchased it for 2,5 peanuts

as the scabbard is in "metal sheet" I doubt that it was show like that,
may be plated by "tombac" ?? or by ??? or nothing

it's this type of information that I try to collect,
but till now excepted you, and a very good friend by PM,
nobody seems interested by my subject

Thanks to both of you

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Dom

Hi Dom,

Hey buddy, you know me! Always ready to jump in with an opinion

Can't find if it was discussed prior to being sold, but this is Nando's one that I thought was similar in the shape and blade decoration......
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12500

Can you post a close-up of the scabbard decoration?

Best
Gene

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Hi Dom,

Hey buddy, you know me! Always ready to jump in with an opinion

Thanks, I saw it, but as far as the scabbard was too far, I was expected an other one

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Can't find if it was discussed prior to being sold, but this is Nando's one that I thought was similar in the shape and blade decoration......
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12500

the period, and style decoration on blade are similar (for style, not for quality ...)

regards

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Dom

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Can you post a close-up of the scabbard decoration?

here we are

many thanks for your assistance

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Dom

Thanks, I saw it, but as far as the scabbard was too far, I was expected an other one


the period, and style decoration on blade are similar (for style, not for quality ...)

regards

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Dom

here we are

many thanks for your assistance

They are strange Dom.
Do you see what I mean about them looking like Japanese Mon?
(Must be a coincidence)
Best
Gene

[Atlantia]

Hi Dom,

Having looked further am I right in thinking that the base sheet metal is rusty where the disk has fallen off?

These applied disks look like they've been reused and not made for this item.
I would suggest that you could replace the obvious missing ones by redistributing some from the back where they overlap.
So the question is what were they originally?
As I say they reminded me of Mon, and even though thats probobly not really helpful, I can't shake the impression that they may have an oriental origin. Possibly Chinese.
If you do swap some around , it might be interesting to examine the back of one. They look pressed out, but there may be clues.

Best
Gene