Wootz Shamshir for translation and comment please

katana · 1st July 2011, 04:45 PM

Salaams Ibrahiim,
thank you. Yes, I have seen your thread and I do think it a good idea and will post my thoughts

Kind Regards David

tom hyle · 7th July 2011, 02:27 PM

Is that a hardening line, or what is that?

tom hyle · 9th July 2011, 07:42 AM

Any thoughts about the extra hole in the end cap?

katana · 9th July 2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tom hyle

Is that a hardening line, or what is that?

Well spotted Tom

(couldn't find a smillie for "hawkeyed"

),
yes I believe it is where the edge has been hardened ....if you look at the picture of the entire sword...the line appears to be almost half the width of the blade running to the point.

As I understand it, hardening/heat treating wootz is very difficult to do without 'damaging' the patterning....or am I mistaken.

Kind Regards David

tom hyle · 10th July 2011, 11:28 AM

apparently if you do it wrong all the important crystals disolve into the steel matrix, leaving you with simple but very high carbon "mono steel"

AJ1356 · 13th July 2011, 05:07 PM

Beautiful Shamshir, It is Safavid ofcourse, the inscription on the balde reads ولایت سلطان شاه عباس welaayat e Sultan Shah 'Abaas - the maker has made the outline out of the word Sultan. the inscription on the sheet is part of a what usually would say نصر منا الله و فتح القریب it is something that one would find on many islamic weapons, which means victory comes from Allah and conquering (loose meaning) is close.

katana · 14th July 2011, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ1356

Beautiful Shamshir, It is Safavid ofcourse, the inscription on the balde reads ولایت سلطان شاه عباس welaayat e Sultan Shah 'Abaas - the maker has made the outline out of the word Sultan. the inscription on the sheet is part of a what usually would say نصر منا الله و فتح القریب it is something that one would find on many islamic weapons, which means victory comes from Allah and conquering (loose meaning) is close.

Thank you very much AJ1356 for your help, appreciated

. I am very pleased with the Shamshir.

Kind Regards David

1st July 2011, 04:45 PM	#1
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Salaams Ibrahiim, thank you. Yes, I have seen your thread and I do think it a good idea and will post my thoughts Kind Regards David

7th July 2011, 02:27 PM	#2
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Is that a hardening line, or what is that?

9th July 2011, 07:42 AM	#3
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Any thoughts about the extra hole in the end cap?

10th July 2011, 11:28 AM	#5
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	apparently if you do it wrong all the important crystals disolve into the steel matrix, leaving you with simple but very high carbon "mono steel"

13th July 2011, 05:07 PM	#6
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 317	Beautiful Shamshir, It is Safavid ofcourse, the inscription on the balde reads ولایت سلطان شاه عباس welaayat e Sultan Shah 'Abaas - the maker has made the outline out of the word Sultan. the inscription on the sheet is part of a what usually would say نصر منا الله و فتح القریب it is something that one would find on many islamic weapons, which means victory comes from Allah and conquering (loose meaning) is close.