Khanjar from Afghanistan

Kurt · 29th June 2011, 05:07 PM

Hi ,
In the exhibition, David's Sammling1982 is this dagger(Nr.58) as Jambiya-Arabia-19th century described.
Regards
Kurt

Kurt · 29th June 2011, 05:16 PM

Here is a copy of the catalog

Kurt · 30th June 2011, 09:13 AM

there was a similar one at Hermann Historica,commented as a Khanjar from Kashmir.
Best Kurt

Tatyana Dianova · 30th June 2011, 11:15 AM

Kurt: a great research!
I think that the Kashmir attribution is more probable. Please take a look at the Kashmir metalwork examples attached. Also the rings on the scabbard are identical to the Pan-Indian design used in earrings and thin bangles (you may find a very similar modern examples that originate from Nepal, India or Bali)

Tatyana Dianova · 30th June 2011, 11:19 AM

I'd like to add the pictures of the dagger in question for the future reference:

Kurt · 30th June 2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tatyana Dianova

I'd like to add the pictures of the dagger in question for the future reference:

Thanks Tatjana ,
I've always been convinced this kind of daggers come from Kashmir.
Kurt

Oriental-Arms · 30th June 2011, 01:16 PM

Well, we are getting closer to Afghanistan. I was just about to bring tons of arguments why this is not an Arab dagger but Kurt and Tatyana saved me the work - Thanks. I wish to bring up only one point: We have seen here five exemplars, all of the same shape, size, blade quality, materials and decoration, whereas Arab Khanjars are characterized in a big variety of all above. This, IMHO, indicate that these daggers are coming from a very specific area or group of people. To strengthen this argument we should also mention that from the huge variety of Arab Khanjars, rarely we see blades of watered steel, whereas here all are with good wootz blades.

29th June 2011, 05:07 PM	#1
Kurt Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 197	Afghan dagger ??? Hi , In the exhibition, David's Sammling1982 is this dagger(Nr.58) as Jambiya-Arabia-19th century described. Regards Kurt

29th June 2011, 05:16 PM	#2
Kurt Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 197	Afghan dagger ??? Pic Here is a copy of the catalog Attached Images

30th June 2011, 11:15 AM	#4
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 743	Kurt: a great research! I think that the Kashmir attribution is more probable. Please take a look at the Kashmir metalwork examples attached. Also the rings on the scabbard are identical to the Pan-Indian design used in earrings and thin bangles (you may find a very similar modern examples that originate from Nepal, India or Bali) Attached Images

30th June 2011, 11:19 AM	#5
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 743	I'd like to add the pictures of the dagger in question for the future reference: Attached Images

30th June 2011, 01:16 PM	#7
Oriental-Arms Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Haifa, Israel Posts: 183	Well, we are getting closer to Afghanistan. I was just about to bring tons of arguments why this is not an Arab dagger but Kurt and Tatyana saved me the work - Thanks. I wish to bring up only one point: We have seen here five exemplars, all of the same shape, size, blade quality, materials and decoration, whereas Arab Khanjars are characterized in a big variety of all above. This, IMHO, indicate that these daggers are coming from a very specific area or group of people. To strengthen this argument we should also mention that from the huge variety of Arab Khanjars, rarely we see blades of watered steel, whereas here all are with good wootz blades.